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Old 05-02-2018, 11:06 PM   #1
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NYS Class R endorsement

Has NYS resident obtained a NYS R endorsement in order to drive a large MH in NYS? If so how does one go about it? The info does not seem to be easy to find online.
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Old 05-03-2018, 10:47 AM   #2
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I'm looking into this also.

I think the magic number is 26,000# gross combined weight rating. Apparently there is a "learners permit" that requires you have a in-class driver with you when practicing and to/from a skills test. (Good grief!) Also there is some sort of drivers manual.
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Old 05-03-2018, 11:20 AM   #3
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DMV clerk knowledge of this endorsement varies quite a bit. I got mine in 2011. It only requires a road test. They use the same skills check list as for other classes of non-commercial tests. It has 20 areas of skill, and each area deducts 5 points for a fail. Passing is either 70 or 75, I don't remember for sure. And, yes, it includes the silly parallel parking test.

I spent a few hours training with a driving school that does all classes of license, and they were familiar with the test procedures and the physical locations generally used for the test. I paid the instructor to drive me to the test, since he was CDL rated.

I had about 5000 miles of experience driving my 38 foot, 29400 Lb. DP in Florida where no endorsement is required. I passed the test with 100%.

DMV issued a 1 year learner's permit for 10 bucks so that I would be legal for the lessons.
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:00 PM   #4
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Thanks. I guess I will wait until I buy such a MH, since I have nothing to practice with, we'll sort of. I avoid place where I would have to parallel park my 30 ft class C.
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Old 05-04-2018, 06:57 PM   #5
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I met one NYer who did it. The local DMV office was clueless. He did his research and, knew more about the topic that DMV staff did. I believe a road test in the big rig is necessary as well as an Air Brake Endorsement. The Escapees HDT Forum is a WEALTH of information;

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I am also a NYS resident on LI looking for this info. Debating if I should reach out to a CDL school.
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Old 05-04-2018, 07:40 PM   #7
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Anyone ever hear of someone getting a ticket? I winder if law enforcement knows & enforces the law.
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Old 05-04-2018, 07:44 PM   #8
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A CDL comes with some “gotchas”. If you don’t otherwise need a CDL, make sure you know what you’re signing up for BEFORE you spend the time and money involved.
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Old 05-04-2018, 07:54 PM   #9
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I got this endorsement in 2013 when I had a 3500 Dually and a 43' toy hauler. As already noted, most small local DMV's are clueless, but I called the Syracuse office and they were helpful. Two cautions: 1) this endorsement is required if the GVWR (Rating, not actual weight) is over 26,000 pounds. 2) you will be required to parallel park your rig!

I just Googled "NYS DMV R endorsement" and here's the result:

Recreational Vehicle or R endorsement - Recreational vehicles, with or without air brakes, are not defined as commercial vehicles. You can apply for an R endorsement for your Class D, Class E or non-CDL Class C driver license to allow you to operate a recreational vehicle (RV) with a Gross Vehicle Weight Rating of over 26,000 pounds (11,794 kg). An R endorsement also allows you to drive a rental vehicle with a length of more than 40 feet for the transportation of personal household products.
To get an R endorsement: Submit a completed Application for Driver License or ID Card (MV-44), indicating a license amendment, to a state or county motor vehicle office; pay a permit fee, which is valid for a maximum of two road tests; and pass a road test in the size and type of vehicle you will drive. No written test is required. For the road test, a driver who is at least 21 with a license valid for the vehicle you will drive during the test must accompany you. (e.g., a driver license with an R endorsement or the correct Commercial Driver License). The road test will take approximately 15 minutes and will include turns, intersections and backing the vehicle to the curb. When you pass the road test, you must go to a motor vehicle office and pay the required fee to complete the license amendment process.
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Thanks jkoenig24. I will check that discussion out. Thanks wbdavey for those details.
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