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Old 12-03-2018, 09:38 AM   #1
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Questions about ordering a DX3.

A member asked some questions about an upcoming order on a DX3. I just wanted to post the answers here, since I think others may have them.

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1) Do we have a solution for the chassis seats in the DX3? Air-ride, swivel and two armrests? I know the swivel is an option.

2) Will the M2 now come standard with OEM LED headlights? If not, can they be ordered as such at the dealer?

3) You were visiting with TST. Is their 507 system to be standard or an option?

4) You mentioned a GPS system in one of your posts. Will there be a standard or optional offering?

5) I would like a third coach battery. Is that something the dealer does or is it ordered from the factory?

6) Did you ever finalize the 4 quadrant camera viewing system on the dash of the M2? That's a good idea.
1. The Force has the dual arm rests and swivel. We have that solved, but I'm not sure I am 100% sold on the styling to be on the DX3 yet. So until we can dial in the stock seat, we will not start putting that on the DX3. Also, supply constraints have limited what we can offer as an aftermarket seat (as some of you have seen from National). So we have a single arm rest and swivel on the DX3 until further notice.

2. New DX3 orders from today's date would have the LED headlights.

3. We have not finalized that yet, but right now it appears optional on everything but the XL, which will be standard.

4. We are using the Kenwood that is Apple CarPlay/Android Auto, so it uses your phone for navigation. We are looking at optioning the Kenwood WITH hard Nav provided by Garmin, but I'm not sure when they are coming into the supplier in production quantities. It would be the exact same harness....so if we did not get it in time, it would be a plug and play replacement. We have only seen the display model so far.

5. You can request that as a custom option from your dealer.

6. we have not finalized a 4 quadrant camera. I have two suppliers coming in this week with display set ups so I can view camera quality. I have a very specific idea of how it should work and until I get that I won't make a change. I don't want to change a bunch of things, just to get it "close". I am planning on having this for 2020 Model Year....which will come with a price increase (see below)

JUST an FYI. 2020 pricing is not out yet. In the past, some dealers have taken orders on previous model year price sheets (so 2019 in this case) assuming we would honor that on a retail order. In the past, when there are not a ton of changes, we have done that. So someone orders a 2018, pays for a 2018, gets a 2019 (for example). With all of the tariffs, chassis changes, material increases, etc, we would not be able to do that. So if you order on 2019 pricing...WE will not honor that for 2020 pricing. So if you dealer takes that order...its on them. We will not accept that order. Someone already ordered a coach and put "2020 Model Year" in the notes and we denied the order and sent it back.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:28 PM   #2
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Thanks, Brian. Appreciate the information. jc
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Old 12-03-2018, 07:21 PM   #3
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.quote from bclemens

We are using the Kenwood that is Apple CarPlay/Android Auto, so it uses your phone for navigation. We are looking at optioning the Kenwood WITH hard Nav provided by Garmin, but I'm not sure when they are coming into the supplier in production quantities. It would be the exact same harness....so if we did not get it in time, it would be a plug and play replacement. We have only seen the display model so far.


Just a question. When using phone for the navigation. how do you get directions with height and length issues being considered?

Reason I ask is this happened to me with a semi 73 ft length and google maps sent me on a road that had a switchback turn in it just off screen. I had to back the tractor trailer out a 1/4 mile with vehicles parked both sides. Not good on unlit road at 2 am. Took a long time. Also, there are many low overpasses like the 11 footer in Elkhart, In just a mile from the plant. A DX3 won't fit through there but google wanted me to go that way.
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Old 12-03-2018, 08:12 PM   #4
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It does not, but I think some apps do...not sure about Waze. That was added as a Carplay option recently.
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Old 12-04-2018, 03:09 PM   #5
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For the last two years I have been using Sygic Truck GPS app and really like it. It lets you put in your info, height, length ect... and will tell you RR crossing ahead , sharp curve, low bridge, speed warning and a bunch of other great stuff. The one thing that I found funny is that when you are about to cross a state line a black and white barrier symbol pops up and say's Border Crossing Ahead This app was made for over the road trucks and works great. But you still need to have at least a little common sense when operating any big RV, review your route so you have an idea of what your in for.
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KRedburn raises an excellent point. Apple Maps and Google Maps do NOT allow you to enter vehicle specifics. Copilot HD does allow to to enter size and weight but NOT the amount of propane (you can enter "Hazardous Gases"). The Copilot RV App DOES allow propane BUT, maxes out at 26,000# GVWR and, if I remember correctly, does NOT allow for LONG RVs. There is still NO GPS App that does a complete job when it comes to RVs. Any owner of a LARGE, HEAVY RV would be very wise to also have a current PRINTED COPY of Rand McNally's Motor Carrier Road Atlas. There is TONS of useful information in said atlas. Buy it at a TRUE truck stop where they're heavily discounted in both the paper and laminated versions.
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KRedburn raises an excellent point. Apple Maps and Google Maps do NOT allow you to enter vehicle specifics. Copilot HD does allow to to enter size and weight but NOT the amount of propane (you can enter "Hazardous Gases"). The Copilot RV App DOES allow propane BUT, maxes out at 26,000# GVWR and, if I remember correctly, does NOT allow for LONG RVs. There is still NO GPS App that does a complete job when it comes to RVs. Any owner of a LARGE, HEAVY RV would be very wise to also have a current PRINTED COPY of Rand McNally's Motor Carrier Road Atlas. There is TONS of useful information in said atlas. Buy it at a TRUE truck stop where they're heavily discounted in both the paper and laminated versions.
Therein lies the problem. No system does everything we need....so we spend a lot of money to get one and then we are told how bad it sucks. So its a catch 22....most people are familiar with the portable system they have and anything else is foreign and bad.

We are currently looking at a new Kenwood, that would be an upgrade to the one we're using. Has all the same CarPlay/Auto/Waze tie ins, but also has RV based navigation from Garmin that takes all the sizes and weight. We think we might option this as it fits in the same hole, same harness. Its brand new, so I haven't had a chance to play with it. It is also about double the cost of the one we're using and all it adds is "hard wired" nav. (Which is becoming like 8 track these days)
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and all it adds is "hard wired" nav. (Which is becoming like 8 track these days)

Ouch! Now that one hurt!
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Would the Kenwood unit under consideration be the DNX775RVS??
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Old 12-05-2018, 04:45 PM   #10
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Looks about right...I don't have the model number though.

Either that or a Panasonic CX-880
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