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Old 07-08-2016, 06:03 AM   #21
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Delacourt Bobby and blemens, your lasts posts described the issues manufacturers create for owners. The component is designed to operate and perform a certain way but their design and ultimate installation prevent it from happening. My particular case, the sewer discharge outlet is so close to the bottom of the cabinet that I barely was able to get an elbow on it. To compound matters further, the rotating holding tube was mounted with the opening slightly offset from discharge tube. As a result, the limited separation top to bottom and last to right left no room for a connected hose to be coiled in the compartment. I was barely able to get a short piece of hose in the holder and up through the opening and connected to a small elbow on the discharge tube. I now have to connect longer run at the end of the hose tube if I'm not within a few feet of the sewer inlet. And the additional hose has to be stored in another compartment. Had some thought been given to the overal layout and orientation of the compartment it could have accommodated the necessary permanent connection and storage of a decent length of hose.
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Old 07-08-2016, 06:22 AM   #22
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Interesting, I have one of those on our 2017 Sunseeker and I managed to get this https://www.amazon.com/Camco-39691-H.../dp/B000EDUTQI nicely stored in it with a hose clamp style 45 degree adapter added on. You slide the straight adapter into the tube first and the 45 fits nicely inside the door. They do design these RV's with very little available weight capacity and those fancy hoses do weigh at least twice as much as a standard one.
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Old 07-08-2016, 10:02 AM   #23
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Delacourt Bobby and blemens, your lasts posts described the issues manufacturers create for owners. The component is designed to operate and perform a certain way but their design and ultimate installation prevent it from happening. My particular case, the sewer discharge outlet is so close to the bottom of the cabinet that I barely was able to get an elbow on it. To compound matters further, the rotating holding tube was mounted with the opening slightly offset from discharge tube. As a result, the limited separation top to bottom and last to right left no room for a connected hose to be coiled in the compartment. I was barely able to get a short piece of hose in the holder and up through the opening and connected to a small elbow on the discharge tube. I now have to connect longer run at the end of the hose tube if I'm not within a few feet of the sewer inlet. And the additional hose has to be stored in another compartment. Had some thought been given to the overal layout and orientation of the compartment it could have accommodated the necessary permanent connection and storage of a decent length of hose.
As in other industries too many dummies making bozo decisions while the knowledgable experienced people are ignored.

Your situation proves the above.

However, there can also be found some well done design and implementations on our RVs as well. And somtimes the good is intermixed with the questionable. For instance, the dropdown bed on mt REV has a seat belt type strap to keep it from dropping accidentally. Good design and easy to use. EXCEPT THAT it is about an inch too close to the ceiling so it is very difficult to unlatch it due to lack of vertical movement.
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Old 07-08-2016, 10:08 AM   #24
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On it...I think that's called "Arson" however.

In the meantime. Sanitubes / Sewer Hose Carriers / SUPER-TUBE - DW Inc.

Has a couple of options.
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Got one, like it, might order a 2nd one. This one has 5 fishing rods in it! Telescopes 53-100"

And they say the Rhino hoses fit no problem
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Old 07-08-2016, 11:08 AM   #25
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I'm not railing on anyone in particular...but a video I watched made me think about this. If someone doesn't know how something works, it's considered broken and when someone doesn't know why something is the way that it is they say it is, its because of engineers that just sit behind their desk.

Now, don't get me wrong...there are lots of things I wonder, why in the heck did we do it this way, that's stupid. But there are lots of things that are the way they are because of ALL the restrictions people don't think or know about.

A good example is rear window. Someone said how stupid it was to have this nice big window in the back and not make it openable. Well, unfortunately that's the code we have to comply with.

I watched a video of full timers who thought, we can design the perfect RV. So a company took them up on that. There was a lot of "we want to do this" "well, we can't really do that because of this code or that code". "well we want this material" "well, we can't really do that material because its doesn't pass flame spread ratings"

It seems really simple...until you have to do it. Motorhomes pose even more complications. Trailers and 5th wheels can sort of do whatever they want. The unit does not need to be usable when in transit. Motorhomes have to maximize size and storage and be perfectly usable with the slides in as well. Plumbing...you'd love to be able to put this here and that there...but somehow you have to get to the tanks with proper slope and there is no basement to plumb into. Let's factor in flame spread, egress requirements, FMVSS standards, not to mention weight restrictions. Oh, and make sure it meets a certain price point.

Almost forgot....what is perfect for one person is not perfect for another. So we have to find a compromise that while its not perfect for either of you...it is something you can both live with. Because at the end of the day, these things need to be approved by the state and the chassis mfg. So we can't just build one...we have to find something that appeals to a broad audience.

Again, there are lots of things that make sense. And contrary to the belief that we ignore people, we're always soliciting feedback and take retail suggestions into play. The Helwig Sway bar started right here on this forum. The front Heat Shields we run...started right here.

Specifically on the seatbelt. The bed used to hang further from the ceiling so there was more vertical movement, but people complained about the clearance under the bed...so we went to a "wood slat" support with thinner mattress, which shortened the distance from the latch to the seatbelt clip (giving more head room) and that is a part that comes with the bed system...we buy the whole thing from Italy.

Trust me...I wish it was much simpler. If anyone has a good idea, I promise we'll figure out a way to use it. Or I can tell you why we can't. But we never ignore experienced RV'ers
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Old 07-08-2016, 11:19 AM   #26
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My REV has a built in tube to hold a sewer hose. My sewer hose does not fit because of the standard connector ends.

Does anyone know what kind of sewer hose will fit in this compartment?

If not, what else can I put in this compartment? It is not very deep, maybe a couple of feet deep.

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Understand your issue, have same problem with the space the Berkshire has. Maybe a built in fishing pole holder. LOL
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Not to mention the varied usages required by the consumer. The needs of a family of weekend fishermen in the Ontario north woods are about 180 degrees from a travelling nurse in the American Midwest. And we have met both with motorhomes identical to ours.
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Old 07-08-2016, 02:35 PM   #28
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Absolutely!.
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Old 07-08-2016, 09:51 PM   #29
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FWIW, this REV 24RB has just about everything I want in an RV. Plus alot of nice goodies I didn't expect.

I couple more inches in width would be nice but that would add weight. More horsepower.

I am thinking of making a sewer hose tube in the outside shower compartment. There is plenty of room for one or two 4x4 fence post covers. Not sure if that is totally safe though. If not I will move tools and stuff from outside storage to the under kitchen sink area, it is huge in there. Then I will have room for my sewer hose box in the right rear compartment.
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Old 07-12-2016, 12:53 AM   #30
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My husband made a rhino flex sewer hose holder with a plastic 5 inch fence post. He attached it to the side of the ladder on the back of our mh. It's great, holds the elbow and everything.
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