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11-15-2019, 08:27 AM
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Commercial Member
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Curse you FOURWHL and your tire pressure thread!!! As much as I tried to derail it, its the gift that keeps on giving. And I would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
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11-15-2019, 09:26 AM
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Senior Member
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I shouldlve known better
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11-15-2019, 10:22 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Oswego il
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TitanMike
How many here have checked tires in the morning and had a tire come apart before noon. Nails and screws are everywhere and one could have been picked up within minutes of starting out. THAT is the main benefit of a TPMS.
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I would bet none have checked their tire pressure before starting out on their drive to where ever they are going. Instead relying on their TPMS if they even have one!
I have sat in campgrounds and rarely have seen anyone check their tires. In fact, this year, I can claim 100% to nobody checking their tire pressure when they leave. In fact, in a rest area in Michigan, I was approached by another fellow RV asking what I was doing with my tires on my trailer as I was checking them!
I informed him I was checking the tire operating temps to see if there was a variance or Delta T of more than +/-4 deg's between the two tires on the same side of the trailer. He said I never thought of that or had been taught to do that! I have found several tire issues by doing this and changing out the effective tire in the rest stop.
I do this after every two hours or so, when towing on the road at every rest stop, we us
Just my humble opinion.
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11-15-2019, 01:45 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim34RL
I would bet none have checked their tire pressure before starting out on their drive to where ever they are going. Instead relying on their TPMS if they even have one!
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Not sure what you’re saying here. It appears you believe that those of us who use TPMS systems only turn it on and then wait for a failure to occur. Every one I know who has the system checks it every time they start out on a trip. Seems that having a continuous display is better than just checking pressure at the start of the day and when at a rest stop.
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11-15-2019, 01:49 PM
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Always Learning
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Four Corners, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by emm-dee
Seems that having a continuous display is better than just checking pressure at the start of the day and when at a rest stop.
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I'll believe that a manual check is as good as a TPMS when someone figures out the art of checking their tire pressure while in motion and rolling down the highway.
Since that's so hard, it'd be nice if there was a device you could attach that would do that check for you.
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11-15-2019, 02:26 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: North of Seattle, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ependydad
I'll believe that a manual check is as good as a TPMS when someone figures out the art of checking their tire pressure while in motion and rolling down the highway.
Since that's so hard, it'd be nice if there was a device you could attach that would do that check for you.
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There are systems that will not only check the pressure while driving down the road but add air if needed:
Another version:
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11-17-2019, 12:21 AM
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Viet Nam era Navy veteran
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Southern Command FL
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TPMS saved a tire problem on Jeep
The second time I towed the Jeep Commander with Fury, I had just installed a newly acquired TPMS system for Fury & the Jeep, "Papa Bear".
The trip was to Crossville, TN, Deer Run CG to attend this year's Heavy Duty Truck (HDT) East Coast Rally (ECR)
The month leading up to this trip in April, I had noted regular slight tire pressure losses in the Jeep's Right Front tire. The Jeep's TPMS system alerted to this and my regular gauge checks confirmed it. I aired up the tire each time it was low.
Although the pressure had been steady during the week before departure, the after market TPMS system soon showed the Jeep's RF tire was losing pressure on the road. I stopped 4 times on the 160 mile trip and aired up using Fury's air system when the tire got to 25 psi. Very fortunate for me that the hose could reach the Jeep's RF tire.
Aired up the tire again at the camp site, but it was flat the next morning. I took the tire in for service that day. After several tests and inspections there was no damage found but an air leak was at the wheel and tire bead on the vehicle side of the tire. The tire techs demounted the tire, buffed the wheel bead area and tire bead area and remounted the tire. No further problems with that tire, so I think the bead to wheel sealing was the cause of the loss of pressure.
TPMS system alerted me to a tire pressure problem while I could do something about it. I may or may not have been lucky enough to discover the tire issue during one of my frequent stops to check the towed vehicle. Without TPMS and my re-inflating the tire, the Jeep tire may have shredded or blown out. Would the Jeep have been damaged or disconnected from the coach had the tire blown? It's possible.
BTW, this was only my 2nd time to tow an automotive vehicle with a Dynamax. I towed RV trailers for 10 1/2 years without TPMS systems. Maybe I used up all my towing luck. I had one tire blow out (older tires) but never rolled a trailer due to a blow out. I've seen it happen, though.
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11-17-2019, 08:31 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Harrisburg, PA
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Originally Posted by FOURWHL
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LOL Brian. This made me spit out my coffee this morning! Hey, if anything, the derailment brings more attention to your original post just like real derailments bring attention to railroad safety issues. Oh, and some much needed morning entertainment for some of us.
I hope you're having wonderful and safe travels. Can't wait to hear about them next year when we are all together again.
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11-17-2019, 10:57 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Oswego il
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Quote:
Originally Posted by emm-dee
Not sure what you’re saying here. It appears you believe that those of us who use TPMS systems only turn it on and then wait for a failure to occur. Every one I know who has the system checks it every time they start out on a trip. Seems that having a continuous display is better than just checking pressure at the start of the day and when at a rest stop.
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My case in point see post three from the author of this thread called another tire-problem!
http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...em-197934.html
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11-17-2019, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim34RL
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Not the first time I’ve heard (and seen) a Tire Minder failure. It does happen.
You can just drive along knowing you won’t get any indication of an impending or actual failure. I would rather have a high probability of knowing of tire failure as opposed to just waiting until something happens.
BTW, the TST served me well just recently.
http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ws-197765.html
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11-17-2019, 03:46 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: North of Seattle, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by emm-dee
Not the first time I’ve heard (and seen) a Tire Minder failure. It does happen.
You can just drive along knowing you won’t get any indication of an impending or actual failure. I would rather have a high probability of knowing of tire failure as opposed to just waiting until something happens.
BTW, the TST served me well just recently.
http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ws-197765.html
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Big problem I see with the Tire Minder is it's blank screen most of the time you're driving.
With TST it's just like an oil pressure gauge, you can see the pressure going down and don't have to wait for the idiot light. That could amount to a LOT more warning.
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11-17-2019, 11:33 PM
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Retired Army Paratrooper
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Enterprise Alabama
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Originally Posted by dbutton
Using the TST monitor is a no brainer, it works flawlesly, I should have gotten it earlier, I purchased it from Dennis & TecnoRV at the FROG ralley for our DQ & enclosed car trailer & it has provided piece of mind with real time data, I bairly look at it after "pre flight checks" & rely on the warning tone for low pressures. All RV'S should have TST monitors.
Nothing wrong with going to 10 tires & checking the pressures while on your knees if it makes you feel good but I prefer to finish my coffee while electrons are doing the job!
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Hey David, Thanks for the shout out. I love hearing feedback on this product, I really think everyone should have one. Like Schultzy said (I think it was him) it is like having an oil pressure gauge, you can be aware of a problem before it becomes a disaster..
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11-18-2019, 07:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
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Amen, never leave home without my TPMS.. What a peace of mind..
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11-18-2019, 10:12 PM
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My tires say psi is 110 On the wall inside is a plate where Forest River says run it at 90 psi. Which is correct.
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11-19-2019, 12:02 AM
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Location: Joliet, IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tncatfanforever
My tires say psi is 110 On the wall inside is a plate where Forest River says run it at 90 psi. Which is correct.
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Ditto on the question.
According to the mfg you set your psi when tires cold. But is the 110 a max or starting psi? My tires gain at least 10 psi going down the road. So do we start at 110 or 90?
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11-19-2019, 12:09 AM
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110 psi cold gives you the ability to carry the weight shown on the tire (ie, 3450 lbs at 110 psi). Tire pressures lower than that reduce weight carrying capacity. Pressure increases during driving are normal.
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11-21-2019, 11:21 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Franktown, Colorado
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Uhoh, this is turning into a real tire pressure thread now.
Best practice is to weigh each corner of your rig fully loaded like you would drive it on a trip. Then consult the tire manufacturers chart and use the PSI recommended for that weight. Set these to that pressure when cold. Some temperature increase is normal, especially in the summer.
Be sure and factor in trailer tongue weight on the rear axle.
This should give you the best ride, tire wear, and not being under inflated, which can cause tire failure.
OK, standing by for 100 more posts with 30 different opinions
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11-22-2019, 07:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RV Randy
Uhoh, this is turning into a real tire pressure thread now.
Best practice is to weigh each corner of your rig fully loaded like you would drive it on a trip. Then consult the tire manufacturers chart and use the PSI recommended for that weight. Set these to that pressure when cold. Some temperature increase is normal, especially in the summer.
Be sure and factor in trailer tongue weight on the rear axle.
This should give you the best ride, tire wear, and not being under inflated, which can cause tire failure.
OK, standing by for 100 more posts with 30 different opinions
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Thanks. I have asked my family for a TPMS for Christmas. Hopefully I can get them all regulated and use the system for some peace of mind. I blew out a tire on my first class C, and on my old 5th wheel. I now have a rule of new tires every 5 years.
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12-08-2019, 12:22 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Texas
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Ok read this ENTIRE post, and enjoyed some pics thanks fourwhl, but NO one has stated what TPMS they bought? Is there only one? DH has decided to get one and I am on here looking for your expert advice since i told him it would be here..............
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12-08-2019, 12:38 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: NE Pa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by letsgorving
Ok read this ENTIRE post, and enjoyed some pics thanks fourwhl, but NO one has stated what TPMS they bought? Is there only one? DH has decided to get one and I am on here looking for your expert advice since i told him it would be here..............
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Two that were mentioned are from Tire Minder and TST:
https://www.minderresearch.com/tireminder/
https://tsttruck.com/
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