Tire come off the rim??

[Orangecrush]

A few weeks ago we got stuck in a field and after spinning tires after a few attempts, I had to have a tractor pull us out.

I have TPMS sensors on each valve stem but once in a while they act screwy and I shut the receiver off before we left TN.

Last week I was under the RV trying to fix the air suspension and I noticed the right inner tire looked low. I put a gauge on it and it didn't register.

I used the air suspension to raise the DX3 and pump air into the tire. It never popped but had 102 lbs in it when I was finished. I drove it around the shop to make sure it seated and while I didn't hear it pop, it looked like it was now sealed around the rim.

I'll check it Monday but was wondering, has this ever happened to anyone? IF it came off the rim a few weeks ago while spinning the tire, that means I drove all the way back from TN to NC with one tire on the right rear.

Like I said, I'll check on it again Monday and if it measures low, I'll take the tire to a truck shop and get it looked at.

Just wondering if this has ever happened to anyone?

Mark

[BarabooBob]

I doubt if the tire would have survived a trip that long without any air pressure. The air lose may have resulted from spinning spinning it by getting crud between the rim and tire. I personally would have the tire removed, checked for damage, and remounted. My piece of mind is worth more that the money spent to get it checked.

[Bill Davis]

Originally Posted by BarabooBob

I doubt if the tire would have survived a trip that long without any air pressure. The air lose may have resulted from spinning spinning it by getting crud between the rim and tire. I personally would have the tire removed, checked for damage, and remounted. My piece of mind is worth more that the money spent to get it checked.

I’ll second that.

[Oaklevel]

I'll 3rd that......


The only times I have heard the tire coming off the rim is when they are the wrong size for the rim or through a traumatic incident. But the tire should not have survived a long drive without air. Do have it checked or replaced as it is probably damaged.

[I5PhilGa]

I would suspect a slow leak, possibly the valve stem, TPMS leak or something in the tire. I agree with Bob that it wouldn't have made it home with little or no air pressure. I have experienced several "flats" on the inside rear and it feels like the wheel is coming off, just before it tears the heck out of the wheel shroud.

[KyDan]

apples to oranges but here's my tale.... a long time ago when I was a young man I may have driven a little faster and more wreckless...
I spun out on a gravel road and hit the ditch pretty hard. The car stayed on all 4 but just barely. When the dust settled I backed out of the ditch and drove home.
Later I noticed one tire flat on the car. I took it off and to a tire shop.
He dis-mounted the tire and proceeded to get nearly a cup of gravel and dirt out of the tire.
I am absolutely sure the tire wasn't flat when I got home. It had pushed off the rim far enough to scoop up all the gravel and then half way re-seated. At least enough for the 5 minute drive home.

So I agree with the others- get it checked.

[wmtire]

If the motorhome has commercial half size diameter rims, like in 17.5, 19.5, 22.5...they are not made like whole travel trailer/5th wheel diameter sizes and have a different bead to rim mounting surface. If these type tires get low, it's very easy for their bead to come away from the rim.

These commercial tires also do not "pop" out on the rims which I think the OP was stating he did not hear.

[FleckDreher]

This tale points to the need for a full-time, working TPMS so you are not surprised to find an inner tire with problems, maybe after it is too late.

Not worth the risk to your life and property.

[Coolbaldguy]

I agree with all above. If the tire was really low or flat on your trip the outer tire would have been overloaded and could possibly blown out. That would leave you with 2 flat tires and damage to the coach....just dont ask how I know this...

[jkoenig24]

I would find a truck shop that has a tire man who has been TRAINED in tire inspection. Tell him exactly what happened. At the very least, I believe the "suspect" tire needs to be removed and CAREFULLY inspected. I would not be surprised if the tire inspection specialist recommends that ALL tires on that axle be properly inspected. Tires/wheels/bearings/axles etc all work together as a system. When one component of a system fails, it DOES affect other parts of that system. If a tire needs to be replaced, don't be surprised if you're told that the other tire needs to be replace as well because, dually tires have to be very close in size (actual diameter). If the otherwise "good" dually has significant wear due to normal use, that may well need replacing just so both duallies match.

[The Renegade]

Crush... You seem like one of the best dudes in the world but I don't think I ever want to travel or hang with you much. If it was not for bad luck you would not have any luck at all... I would guess if something can happen, it has already happened to you...

I think when Murphys law was founded, he had you in mind for the future. Hang in there my friend. It can't go on forever...

[cariboo camper]

Originally Posted by Orangecrush

A few weeks ago we got stuck in a field and after spinning tires after a few attempts, I had to have a tractor pull us out.

I have TPMS sensors on each valve stem but once in a while they act screwy and I shut the receiver off before we left TN.

Last week I was under the RV trying to fix the air suspension and I noticed the right inner tire looked low. I put a gauge on it and it didn't register.

I used the air suspension to raise the DX3 and pump air into the tire. It never popped but had 102 lbs in it when I was finished. I drove it around the shop to make sure it seated and while I didn't hear it pop, it looked like it was now sealed around the rim.

I'll check it Monday but was wondering, has this ever happened to anyone? IF it came off the rim a few weeks ago while spinning the tire, that means I drove all the way back from TN to NC with one tire on the right rear.

Like I said, I'll check on it again Monday and if it measures low, I'll take the tire to a truck shop and get it looked at.

Just wondering if this has ever happened to anyone?

Mark

Mark, if you drove from TN to NC how many times did you stop? I don't want to be telling you or anyone else how to drive or care for your rig, BUT! in my many years of driving as commercial driver (class 1 where I hail from) we have a post trip and pre trip inspection. this entails going over you rig every time you start up and shut down.

To this day every time I stop in my motorhome for more than a few minutes be it lunch stop, fuel stop, pit stop I do a what we call a pre-trip walk around, really simple, walk around, look for leaks under engine, kick the tires or just reach in to inner tire and push on it, feel for excessive heat on tires and brake rotors, I have a small hammer by door to tap on tires and I can assure you, you will notice a low tire. Check tow vehicle and check tow bar integrity.


At start of day wife sits in drivers seat and we go through checking lights etc. Then I do complete check of everything including ducking head under axles to check for grease, oil etc. on brakes. Every few days I will get under coach and push on driveline (u-joints). Takes very little time but well worth the effort.


Don't mean to single you out but just thought this was a good opportunity to try and impress upon fellow travellers to be diligent. Have often seen drivers just hook up and go.


Safe travels

[Bill Davis]

Originally Posted by cariboo camper

Mark, if you drove from TN to NC how many times did you stop? I don't want to be telling you or anyone else how to drive or care for your rig, BUT! in my many years of driving as commercial driver (class 1 where I hail from) we have a post trip and pre trip inspection. this entails going over you rig every time you start up and shut down.

To this day every time I stop in my motorhome for more than a few minutes be it lunch stop, fuel stop, pit stop I do a what we call a pre-trip walk around, really simple, walk around, look for leaks under engine, kick the tires or just reach in to inner tire and push on it, feel for excessive heat on tires and brake rotors, I have a small hammer by door to tap on tires and I can assure you, you will notice a low tire. Check tow vehicle and check tow bar integrity.


At start of day wife sits in drivers seat and we go through checking lights etc. Then I do complete check of everything including ducking head under axles to check for grease, oil etc. on brakes. Every few days I will get under coach and push on driveline (u-joints). Takes very little time but well worth the effort.


Don't mean to single you out but just thought this was a good opportunity to try and impress upon fellow travellers to be diligent. Have often seen drivers just hook up and go.


Safe travels

When I stop for fuel or a break I look at the tires and wheels, feel the hubs for excessive heat and hit the tires with a baseball bat. I also look at the back of the coach for oil spots. That routine has kept me out of trouble for many hundreds of thousands miles over many years.

[Orangecrush]

I completely agree. I’m very conscientious about keeping a visual each and every time I stop somewhere. Just a quick inspection may prevent damage further down the road.

However, after we got unstuck, we headed home and I never stopped for fuel or anything. I was exhausted and didn’t give it a second thought.

I am going to have the tire checked but I’ve never seen a tire I unbead itself off the rim.

Thanks for everyone’s input, I’ll keep you updated.

Mark

Originally Posted by cariboo camper

Mark, if you drove from TN to NC how many times did you stop? I don't want to be telling you or anyone else how to drive or care for your rig, BUT! in my many years of driving as commercial driver (class 1 where I hail from) we have a post trip and pre trip inspection. this entails going over you rig every time you start up and shut down.

To this day every time I stop in my motorhome for more than a few minutes be it lunch stop, fuel stop, pit stop I do a what we call a pre-trip walk around, really simple, walk around, look for leaks under engine, kick the tires or just reach in to inner tire and push on it, feel for excessive heat on tires and brake rotors, I have a small hammer by door to tap on tires and I can assure you, you will notice a low tire. Check tow vehicle and check tow bar integrity.


At start of day wife sits in drivers seat and we go through checking lights etc. Then I do complete check of everything including ducking head under axles to check for grease, oil etc. on brakes. Every few days I will get under coach and push on driveline (u-joints). Takes very little time but well worth the effort.


Don't mean to single you out but just thought this was a good opportunity to try and impress upon fellow travellers to be diligent. Have often seen drivers just hook up and go.


Safe travels

[luker0]

Back in my off roading days we would often have tire issues after playing in the mud. Many times foreign objects like rocks and twigs and hay or whatever else have gotten stuck between the bead and the rim. Have have several slow leaks caused by this. Also have spun the tire in the rim from the mud lubricating the bead.

Some of that was caused by lowering pressures before off roading but also happened at operating PSI. Unmounting the tire cleaning it and the rim and remounting and balancing were required.

[Dirtmaster]

As an off-road racer I have lots of experience with dirt getting into the tire bead (mostly newer drivers, but occasionally me too). It would be most uncommon for a tire bead to open enough to ingest dirt and gravel and then reseat and self inflate. Most likely if you found dirt inside it was either leftover from a previous flat or you had been running at reduced air pressure on the way home.

I do want to add a bit of caution on seating tire beads. Manufacturers list a maximum pressure on the tire that should not be exceeded or risk damaging the tire carcas. Many shade tree mechanics will call BS on this and routinely seat beads with dangerously high pressure. You want to find an installer that knows how to seat the bead without excess pressure.

[halla]

My last tpms system had a bad valve cap, the right inner tire lost air on our way home on a trip, got home and had 10lbs total. I dumped that system because I continued to have leaks from the caps. But my new system had a cap blow off, so who knows. I would love to get a built in system like my Ram has.

[Orangecrush]

Originally Posted by Dirtmaster

I do want to add a bit of caution on seating tire beads. Manufacturers list a maximum pressure on the tire that should not be exceeded or risk damaging the tire carcas. Many shade tree mechanics will call BS on this and routinely seat beads with dangerously high pressure. You want to find an installer that knows how to seat the bead without excess pressure.

I’m not familiar with truck tires so when I used the jacks to get the tires off the ground, I put 102 pounds in it (I run 100) and put it down. It seemed to seal and then I drove it back and forth to let the weight finish sealing the bead. While I know that isn’t the “correct” way to do it, I was trying to get it to work so I could take it to a tire shop.

Yesterday I did manage to get it over to a shop and it turns out I had a leak on. Other inner tires. One was caused by a leaking TPMS cap and the other by the valve extension.

I replaced a rubber o-ring on the cap and sprayed foam glass cleaner on it (though it doesn’t leak, the sensor doesn’t register still) and I replaced both inner extensions.

The guy said the tote was still clean and seated so hopefully we’re good to go.

I appreciate everyone’s advice and suggestions.

Mark