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Old 09-05-2015, 06:54 PM   #1
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Broken and cracked cable guides

The plastic cable guides (my term) under my dinning room and living room slides are cracked. These are the guides that collapse and expand (bow and unbow) as the slide opens and closes and carry all the necessary cables that run between the slide and the main rig. This is the second time in 2 years that the dinning room slide guide had cracked (in the same place) and the first time for the living room. The dinning room guide has a lot of cables it is holding up because all my entertainment is in the slide (TV, Radio, Fireplace). The living room carries less but my kitchen is in that slide. This time when the dining room guide cracked it snapped the tie wraps holding up the cable bundles. Thus the bundles fell unto the slide track and several were severed when the slide closed. I was lucky that I had my coax connectors and compression tool as it cut my TV coax. The other wires were speaker wires that I spliced together. You might want to inspect your guides if you have a similar set up. I was able to jury rig a fix and make it through the summer.

I have come to the conclusion that a major cause of this problem is that on the rig side, the guide is on a pivot but on the slide side it is hard attached with two screws and the guide material is just not up to the task, maybe too brittle. The solution I came up with but have not yet implemented is to put a gate or door hinge on the slide end and attach the guide to it. This will allow it to bow and unbowed without so much stress. If anyone might have another ideas or suggested fixes, please feel free to share.

I do want to point out that I have been treated very well by FR. Both Gary and Robert have been very helpful. Even though I was 30 days over my two year warranty they have agreed to repair the unit under the warranty. I know we all are rough on FR sometimes but I have always been treated well by the warranty dept.
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Old 09-06-2015, 12:44 PM   #2
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I have exactly the same failure. Good to hear they are covering it... I'm still early in my second-year warranty but the dealer wasn't sure. So far, I'm just using a bungee to support the bundle while travelling. In my case, the bundles don't rest on the slide tracks so they're just hanging a little low and still have enough room to fold up without severing any.


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Old 09-06-2015, 01:03 PM   #3
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Hay Dave;

I used some bailing wire to support mine. I know that it will continue to happen unless something new comes along. I asked FR if there was a more robust solution but I haven't heard back nor do I expect to. Need something to pivot on the slide end. Still intend to try my hinge solution if nothing else comes up. Don't know what else to do.
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Old 09-06-2015, 02:26 PM   #4
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When the service manager said he wasn't sure if FR would cover that under the second-year warranty, I said to order me one anyway because I'll need it. Since it broke near the screwed-down end, I could probably trim it square but it might then be too short.

I agree that the slide-end needs a hinge because the stress is probably just too much when open - especially in cold weather. If I replace it myself, I plan to use a stainless piano hinge.

As with you, several of the cable brackets are also broken away from the guide. Since they have no openings, the cables must have been run through them after the guide was already mounted. I don't see how they can replace the guides with the same type without disconnecting the cables and really doubt they would do that. Again, if I do it myself I will probably use zip ties.

It really should have been a metal arm like those used for rack-mount servers. Cheap, cheap, cheap!
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Old 09-06-2015, 02:37 PM   #5
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Maybe you can make a small slit in the brackets and push through the cables. I do not remember how they did mine last time. Those are nice brackets as they allow some movement of the cables when the guide flexes. Suggest you don't make anything too tight and allow some movement. Also check where the bundles are attached to the rig just under the slide opening. They used plastic zip ties that broke. I used bailing wire to tie them up and wrapped it around the screws prior to tightening down to ensure they don;t slip. I think my jury rig is better than their engineering.........I think I will use a gate hinge as that will bring the attachment point further out. Good luck...
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Old 09-07-2015, 01:38 PM   #6
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Not sure how to point you at it, but if you go to my photo area/Mods (NCRadioman) you can see how I addressed this. I didn't want to have to re-cable the lines (as far as I can tell, you have to thread the cables thru the guides...), so I patched it, so to speak.

BTW - if someone could give me a clue on how to insert a link...
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Radioman. Try copy and pasting the link in the body f a reply. Works for me. Interested in what you did.
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I cannot find your mod/photos page.......
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Old 09-07-2015, 02:13 PM   #9
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OK, let's give this a try: Forest River Forums - NCRadioman's Album: Broken Flex Guide and Repair
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Old 09-07-2015, 02:22 PM   #10
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Got it

Nice fix. Of the three breaks I have had all have been only at the attachment points, never in the middle. My hope is to only put the hinge at the attachment points. What do you think? Perhaps when I do the fix to the attachment points it will make it last longer and thus the middle might become the weak link.

What did you do about broken cable guides along the brackets. The guides that hold the bundles to the flexible brackets. Some of mine are broken. I think loose cable ties will work, maybe metal.

Any input appreciated.
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