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Old 04-19-2016, 09:41 PM   #11
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Old 04-19-2016, 09:46 PM   #12
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I got the weights now.
I weighed the truck.
I added trailer.

It's just a pig heavy trailer.

I just don't get, how they can be SO FAR OFF the listed weights.


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Old 04-19-2016, 10:59 PM   #13
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I got the weights now.
I weighed the truck.
I added trailer.

It's just a pig heavy trailer.

I just don't get, how they can be SO FAR OFF the listed weights.

Where are they wrong? My 36QBOK weighed dry within 20 lbs. of the advertised dry pin weight.

http://www.learntorv.com/2013/09/dry...vertising.html
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Old 04-20-2016, 05:50 AM   #14
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Where are they wrong? My 36QBOK weighed dry within 20 lbs. of the advertised dry pin weight.

http://www.learntorv.com/2013/09/dry...vertising.html

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Advertised 1865.
Scaled at close to 2500.

( I did forget, my wife wasn't with me for the truck weigh 180lbs)

So, that's still 400 lbs over listed pin.

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Basically, it went down like this.

Looked at the specs for the trailer.

1865. Ok. Good.

Now the truck.
Look at the ram towing chart.
Scroll down.... Ccsb cummins Aisin.

Great 3920. So that's 2000 lbs of room. No problem!

Not so fast fatty...
Truck comes at 3747 sticker. Ok lost a bit there.
Add the hitch, me and the boy.
Down to 2860. Wow. Almost a 1000lbs.
That's ok. Still a grand over the listed weight of the trailer... RIGHT?

Nope. Truck was 8840 without the wife so let's call it 9000.
Scaled in with the trailer and now I am within 380 pounds of my gross...

Screw you ram and FR.
Someone is going to cost me 20 grand......



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Advertised 1865.
Scaled at close to 2500.

( I did forget, my wife wasn't with me for the truck weigh 180lbs)

So, that's still 400 lbs over listed pin.

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Old 04-20-2016, 06:50 AM   #17
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There's been PLENTY of discussion about propane weight added to the dry weight sticker as a "known" weight, however Gary Grigsby personally told me this weight isn't added at Sabre.
Truth or not that's another 60 plus pounds


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Advertised 1865.
Scaled at close to 2500.

( I did forget, my wife wasn't with me for the truck weigh 180lbs)

So, that's still 400 lbs over listed pin.

You didn't weigh an empty trailer. While it may be minimal, you've added things to the camper and the wet pin weight is going to increase. Your trailer is wet and thusly, the weight has increased. This is expected and isn't "screw you FR".

I also question your weights. The fact that you didn't do both at once leaves way too much margin for changes- you later added you were missing your wife; were your fuel levels the same; did you have stuff in the truck bed; was there q difference in stuff in the cab?

I get that you're unhappy that you're close to maxing out your truck (trust me- I'm maxing out my duality), but your blame is at the wrong people.
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There's been PLENTY of discussion about propane weight added to the dry weight sticker as a "known" weight, however Gary Grigsby personally told me this weight isn't added at Sabre.
Truth or not that's another 60 plus pounds


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I question if I need to carry two 30# propane tanks. During the warm camping season, I only run the demand hot water heater and my grill occasionally on the propane. My fridge is a residential. My oven and top burners are rarely used. I believe I could run with one tank empty or completely removed.

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I believe I could run with one tank empty or completely removed.

I accidentally run completely empty all the time!
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