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06-01-2015, 10:59 AM
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Sabre aluminum frame
Is the roof access ladder fastened directly to the aluminum cage or frame? I'm needing a grounding bond for a ham antenna at the ladder, and I thought someone else might know about the construction methods.
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06-01-2015, 11:20 AM
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Left Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tinkerreknit
Is the roof access ladder fastened directly to the aluminum cage or frame? I'm needing a grounding bond for a ham antenna at the ladder, and I thought someone else might know about the construction methods.
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Can you remove a screw/bolt and using a thin object to probe and listen for a metallic sound?
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06-01-2015, 11:33 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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I've sent an email to find out if it in fact is mounted to the "sabre cage"
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06-01-2015, 11:53 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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I received a response back and in fact the ladder is "NOT" mounted to the aluminum superstructure.
It is mounted to wood backers.
Back to the drawing board.
TURBS
08 duramax tuned n modded
2011 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "9 nights"
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06-01-2015, 12:06 PM
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Thanks for the blazing fast help, Bob and TURBS. I'm a little surprised though. I can bond it myself but it'll involve some kind of wall or roof access somewhere. I can see the roof frame at the nearby bath roof vent so that might help.
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06-01-2015, 12:08 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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The aluminum roof structure is on at least two sides of the roof vent.
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06-01-2015, 12:09 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Can you not still mount it to the ladder and run a bonding cable to the frame?
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06-01-2015, 05:30 PM
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I can prettily easily and cleanly bond the ladder to the chassis. But does anyone know if the aluminum wall "cage" is connected electrically to the chassis? I mean would you think the 2 are bolted together? I want to rely on the ceiling framing as a ground plane for the vertical antenna. I truly appreciate all the interest as it helps me think before breaking out the cutting torch and chainsaw! It's great that DW let's me do anything I want to.
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06-01-2015, 05:32 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Yes it is.
The electrical devices in the ceiling are grounded to it.
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06-01-2015, 05:53 PM
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Ah you make the job much easier! I always over-think my projects. I have some good looking tinned braid that I can use from the ladder to the bumper. It'll be OK to the critical eye and should hold up well.
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06-14-2015, 08:27 AM
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My first attempt at operating the new rig had some problems. I did operate on VHF, but on HF I had standing wave problems on most bands. But I can't be sure yet if the transceiver communicates with the antenna as it should. Yaesu FT-857 and ATAS120A screwdriver antenna. It'll take some time to pin down the problem.
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08-11-2015, 11:26 AM
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Update; all is working fine now and I can tune on several bands. My problem was a cold solder connection! I ran the coax through the ladder tubing so I then had to solder the terminal up top on a cold day. I checked the coax for continuity or shorts afterwards and thought all was OK. But I later found out the meter had a bad battery which gave erratic readings. I was stunned! I re-soldered and have had no more trouble. I do use the optional ground radial system, but I suspect I could discontinue that. I only use it because I deploy the antenna as I'm setting up at camp, rather than swivel it upside down or sideways and leave it mounted. I did bond all the ground components together.
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