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06-20-2018, 09:18 PM
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Buying used, change the locks?
So assuming buying used I'd want to change the locks on the storage and 'house' door, what doe this entail and possible costs.
Forester 2401R is the coach in question.
Links to where to get locks? Or something simple a locksmith could do?
I don't like the idea that dealers have a "master" key to the standard locks.
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06-20-2018, 09:25 PM
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In most cases you don't have to worry about the 'master' if you use your deadbolts. I know my dealer can only unlock the handle, but not the deadbolt with their master. Actually, the 'master' makes things easier for me. I can drop my trailer off my dealer any time of the night, on Sundays, etc... As long as I leave the deadbolt unlocked, they can get in and I don't have to leave a set of keys for them.
No idea how it works for Motorhomes though. Do you need the ignition key to move the coach, or do they have a master for that too?
Ignition aside, you should be able to handle any door/storage compartment lock change with parts from RVLocksAndMore | RV Locks | RV Keys | Fastec FIC Locks and Keys
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06-20-2018, 10:49 PM
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So I'm mostly concerned with the storage cubbies on the outside. That's great info about the deadbolt.
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06-20-2018, 11:56 PM
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These storage locks are “one key fits all”. The 751 key fits most storage locks (quarter-turn) and the R001 key fits the rest of the factory locks (slam latch).
You can buy more secure locks online and install them yourself. It’s pretty easy and not too expensive. I don’t remember where, it’s been a long time since I looked for them. I’m sure others here can give you good information and point you in the right direction.
The entry door lock can be upgraded also.
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06-21-2018, 12:09 AM
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When you buy a used car, do you change all the locks?
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06-21-2018, 01:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by baranski
So I'm mostly concerned with the storage cubbies on the outside. That's great info about the deadbolt.
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I got my high security locks here but remember that my doors are just thin plastic and foam so What's High Security really..
https://ch751.com/
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06-21-2018, 01:16 PM
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If a thief wants in, changing locks won't matter. Crooks don't carry keys.
Storage doors and even entry doors can be pried open in about 1 second.
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06-21-2018, 01:18 PM
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You can put all the locks you want on the storage compartments, all they will do is keep honest people honest. If someone really wants in it will take less time to just pop the lock with a pry bar. There was a series of break ins at the storage area down the road from my house. Seven units were broken into, all had stuff stolen, two of them didn't bother to lock their unit, they aren't paying to replace broken doors and windows, unlike the other 5...
Your call. Personally I don't worry too much about the locks and changing them for something different.
Aaron
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06-21-2018, 03:03 PM
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I replaced ALL locks with the barrel type as soon as I could because there are 1000's of people with the same lock. I feel a lot safer!
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06-21-2018, 03:15 PM
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If your storage bins have one of the common keys I would change those locks. Not because you bought used but because everyone runs around with those keys. There are better solutions.
I don't understand the people who say don't worry about it. If the crook wants in they will get in. Yes that is true but I doubt they would share the same house key with all of their neighbors because if somebody wants in all they have to do is throw a brick through a window.
Keep honest people honest isn't the reason here. It is keeping the mildly dishonest people out of your stuff. Especially if you keep the RV in a public storage facility. Chances are, the guy storing his RV next to yours has the same key to open your storage bins. The only disadvantage to changing your locks is if you are out camping and lose your key, you can't ask your neighbor to borrow theirs.
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06-21-2018, 03:20 PM
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If you're talking about the CH751 locks on most of the trailers around, I had changed mine out to these:
Home | Combination Cam Lock | Cam Locks | Electronic locker locks | Cabinet Locks
Not because I was worried about other people having my key, but because I didn't want to have to worry about me having my key. With a combination lock, I can lock the trailer door, throw the keys in a storage bin and then lock it before heading to the pool, beach or other places I don't want to leave the keys sitting around.
I don't know if the OPs motorhome has these type of locks though. Most motorhomes I've seen have had slam latches, and for the rest, I just didn't pay attention to what they had.
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06-21-2018, 03:31 PM
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I just received my order of "Ace" style high security locks from www.ch751.com for our new motor homes cargo bays. I know these locks wouldn't even slow down a weak 5 year old with a hammer...you can just punch them straight through the door.
But if someone does do that, or any other means of forced entry, I'll have the evidence I need for a police report and an insurance claim. If I left the CH751 locks in place it would be a heck of a lot harder to prove a theft if the thief just used a common key. That makes it worth the upgrade cost to me.
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06-21-2018, 03:43 PM
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I know I'm diverting here, but realistically, I doubt anybody is going to rob you by using the common CH751. If somebodies looking to steal something, they're just going to force it open. Heck, I know of at least 1 case (my best man's car in college) where even though he had left his doors unlocked, somebody smashed his window to grab a duffle bag out of his back seat. Didn't even bother to try the handle.
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06-21-2018, 03:48 PM
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I had a guy cut my chain link fence to get to my shed. I guess that gate 30 ft away was just too easy for him. He wanted a challenge!
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06-21-2018, 04:28 PM
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My storage bin locks are rusted. I've tried WD40 but the large nut on the inside just will not turn. I'd like to change them to a barrel type lock and key. If anyone has any ideas I sure would be grateful.
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06-21-2018, 04:40 PM
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Waste of time and money I would not change the locks. If someone wants in they will get in. I really do not understand why anyone would do that but whatever....... The only reason I would change locks is if one were not working.
I would rather if they broke in that they would use the key not problem with get the insurance to cover the stuff......... Oh wait I do not have any thing worth steeling the damage to the doors would be more costly than what is inside the compartments.......
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06-21-2018, 06:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck1217
My storage bin locks are rusted. I've tried WD40 but the large nut on the inside just will not turn. I'd like to change them to a barrel type lock and key. If anyone has any ideas I sure would be grateful.
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Welcome to the forum!
I'd use a Dremel tool to cutoff the nut. If you are careful you won't damage the door. If you do damage the door just buy a slightly longer lock than the original and cover any damage with a fender washer. See Here for how I reinforced the doors on our A-Frame using fender washers... It will work the same on just about any non-slam lock type cargo door.
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06-22-2018, 10:32 AM
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Thank you for quick and detailed reply, it's really going to help. Step 1 of my project plan is to buy a Dremel tool! The remaining steps is to follow your clear instructions.
Again thank you so much!
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06-22-2018, 10:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rockfordroo
When you buy a used car, do you change all the locks?
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Well... I did change the code to the door keypad for the locks. Is that the same? (BTW, quite possibly the greatest automotive idea since the automatic transmission. I love being able to lock the keys inside the truck when we go on a float trip or other activity and not have to worry about losing them)
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06-22-2018, 11:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by baranski
So assuming buying used I'd want to change the locks on the storage and 'house' door, what doe this entail and possible costs.
Forester 2401R is the coach in question.
Links to where to get locks? Or something simple a locksmith could do?
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Hardware stores. Any locksmith. easy to change.
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