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Old 05-11-2016, 03:14 PM   #21
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I can say for us, never one time in all our back and forth looking at the class C MBS motorhomes from various manufacturers across multiple dealers did anyone EVER mention the CCC of these rigs. It was only because of this forum I would have even thought about looking at the yellow sticker on my door.

While I was at Yosemite a few weeks ago we saw quite a few MBS Class C's. One was towing a 4dr Jeep Rubicon loaded to the hilt with 35" tires. The other had an enclosed travel trailer with 10 kayaks on the outside not to mention the gear inside the trailer.

I think there might be a good deal of people that just assume it can handle what we throw at it.

I'd be interested in stats. How many people overload it for how long until/if anything happened. What happened if anything?

In retrospect I myself may have gone with another model if I had known about the CCC, but I'm not going to live with regrets about it.

Travel smart, pay attention, enjoy the ride right?
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:05 PM   #22
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Forester MBS 2401S weight concerns

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I can say for us, never one time in all our back and forth looking at the class C MBS motorhomes from various manufacturers across multiple dealers did anyone EVER mention the CCC of these rigs. It was only because of this forum I would have even thought about looking at the yellow sticker on my door.

While I was at Yosemite a few weeks ago we saw quite a few MBS Class C's. One was towing a 4dr Jeep Rubicon loaded to the hilt with 35" tires. The other had an enclosed travel trailer with 10 kayaks on the outside not to mention the gear inside the trailer.

I think there might be a good deal of people that just assume it can handle what we throw at it.

I'd be interested in stats. How many people overload it for how long until/if anything happened. What happened if anything?

In retrospect I myself may have gone with another model if I had known about the CCC, but I'm not going to live with regrets about it.

Travel smart, pay attention, enjoy the ride right?

The MBS has lots of engine power. It has 4,220# of towing capacity on top of the GVWR. That is the GCWR less the GVWR. Most of that additional weight sits on the chassis of the towed vehicle, not the MBS. The only thing that counts against the MBS GVWR in the setups you mentioned is the tongue weight. Pretty good chance the overloaded travel trailer tongue weight on top of normal cargo and passengers would put the rig over GVWR, but the only way to know for sure is to weigh it. Not sure about that juiced up Jeep thingy....

Of course the towed vehicle or trailer has its own GVWR that must or should be met.

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Old 05-11-2016, 05:43 PM   #23
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I can say for us, never one time in all our back and forth looking at the class C MBS motorhomes from various manufacturers across multiple dealers did anyone EVER mention the CCC of these rigs. It was only because of this forum I would have even thought about looking at the yellow sticker on my door.

While I was at Yosemite a few weeks ago we saw quite a few MBS Class C's. One was towing a 4dr Jeep Rubicon loaded to the hilt with 35" tires. The other had an enclosed travel trailer with 10 kayaks on the outside not to mention the gear inside the trailer.

I think there might be a good deal of people that just assume it can handle what we throw at it.

I'd be interested in stats. How many people overload it for how long until/if anything happened. What happened if anything?

In retrospect I myself may have gone with another model if I had known about the CCC, but I'm not going to live with regrets about it.

Travel smart, pay attention, enjoy the ride right?
This is our first RV and I thought I did a lot of research before purchasing but I didn't think weight was going to be this much of a problem for us. The dealers we talk with never brought up the issue with weight but from reading this forum, I knew that there wasn't a lot of extra wiggle room when it came to weight. This was one of the main reasons we went the with "S" model since it had the lowest UVW (Unloaded Vehicle Weight).

I have been able to remove about 57lbs from my original weight. I was going to leave all my cloths at home to save weight but by wife says that's not an option. Oh well, it was a nice idea... Before removing anything else I'm going to take the RV to a local truck stop and have it weighed to see where I stand. Hopefully I'm close.
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Old 05-11-2016, 05:50 PM   #24
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Here is where you can find CATS scales. There are other options too, but perhaps harder to find.

For these, you just drive onto the scale (making sure you don't make a fool of yourself by driving on the wrong direction!) press the silver button (good luck reaching the button!) to call the office, and tell them you are an RV. Then you drive off, park, and go inside to get your printout. You get weight for each axle and total weight. Cost is about $10-11. I think it's $1/1000#.

https://catscale.com/cat-scale-locator/



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Old 05-11-2016, 08:47 PM   #25
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I owned a VW Vangon westy that I had restored prior to the Solera. To save weight I use a lot of light weight kitchen items that I transferred from the Vanagon. The lightweight backpacking stuff makes a big difference over traditional housewares.
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Old 05-13-2016, 12:04 PM   #26
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Removed some weight...

I've been busy removing weight from my 2015 24R. The major changes I've made thus far:
  • I don't carry the pedestal table that goes in front of the couch. I use a couple of TV tables instead.
  • I removed the door between the back bedroom and the bath area. I'm using the ceiling track to hold a curtain. (I don't expect to need the curtain, but what the heck.)
  • I removed the ladder to the overhead bunk. It was surprisingly heavy and, though folks have slept up there, we've never needed the ladder.
  • I replaced the original glass shower door with the vinyl SEA door.
All in all, I'm thinking I've taken 125 - 150 lbs out ... no small matter when we're so tight to begin with.

Note on the SEA vinyl door... I've got it installed, but I'm having a small issue getting the closure to line up correctly. It's got magnetic strips on the fixed and movable parts...the strips line up at the bottom but are off by 1/4-3/8 inch at the top. I've got a call for help into SEA.

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Old 05-13-2016, 04:02 PM   #27
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Here's something which not many have cited as an advantage. The MBS is 91.5 inches wide versus Chevy/Ford 101 inches. Having just driven the lovely, but slim CA 20 through the forest, I felt quite thankful for this advantage! It might not hold beefy loads, but it is easy to handle.
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The MBS is 91.5 inches wide
Our 2016 MBS 2401R body measures 98" and mirror to mirror is 112"
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Exterior width measurement taken from the Forest River brochure (the 101" for the Chevy /Ford isn't mirror to mirror either). MBS is narrower than Chevy /Ford (need mirror to mirror measurements for one of those).:what:
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The MBS brochure I have shows 94.5" width for all three models. Most of the other Foresters are 101" wide. The GTS is 95.5".


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