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Old 04-24-2016, 09:09 PM   #21
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Did you have any RV weight issues? Did you have it weighed? We are finding that we are maxed out on the GVWR with a few very modest add-ons and a bunch of stuff in the basement compartments. No bikes or toad or compressor. Just some cables, hoses, outdoor area rug, EMS box, and a small electric heater which we will probably leave behind.


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We only have 925 pounds of useful load according to the FR supplied sticker in the door jam. Doesn't take much "stuff" to exceed that. Unlike my airplane, I don't think it's illegal to overload it some, but I know that it's not prudent. If I ever do have it weighed, I expect the solution to being overweight will be to store more of the stuff in the Toad and less in the MH.

Given the limited payload of the MBS chassis, I dare say most of us operate overweight much of the time.
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Old 04-25-2016, 11:43 AM   #22
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I did weigh mine completely loaded with me, wife, dog, full water, full LP, bike, all our stuff, at a truck stop 1000 miles into the trip... Almost 500 lbs overweight, all on the rear axle. Yikes!
The basement compartments still have loads of room in them, so I guess it could be even worse. We stopped carrying full water (now 1/4). We have also learned what we do not need after this first trip. It would be pretty difficult to travel with a family of 4 and not overload the boat!
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In MFG's defense...we try and try to cut weight.

Quality is heavy and options are heavy, so its not all on the MFG. I just got a lot of weight pulled from our 2 point stabilizer and yet now everyone wants a 4 point. I offer up a radius top, plastic shower curtain and about 99% option a glass shower door adding 70lbs.

We try and let everyone pick and choose options, balancing what is important, but what ends up happening is they take every single option and reduce the CCC.
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Hey BClemens!
Pretty much every MB class C that we looked at was in the same CCC class as your/our SunSeeker. Our copy is 1040 lbs, and for sure the Winnebago we were considering was about the same. It sounds like a lot, and being new to this game, we really just loaded it with what we thought we needed and headed out. Thanks for your attention to this forum, and your response here.


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In MFG's defense...we try and try to cut weight.

Quality is heavy and options are heavy, so its not all on the MFG. I just got a lot of weight pulled from our 2 point stabilizer and yet now everyone wants a 4 point. I offer up a radius top, plastic shower curtain and about 99% option a glass shower door adding 70lbs.

We try and let everyone pick and choose options, balancing what is important, but what ends up happening is they take every single option and reduce the CCC.
I don't blame FR really - the unit is loaded for the chassis it's on. It's more not realizing that 1000# goes very quickly! We have things we can leave behind if we get any closer to the max. E.g., electric space heater, nice to have when we are plugged in for when it's cold (headed to Canada soon) but if we can't bring it, we'll use the built-in furnace and just have to buy more propane when needed. Extra hose - nice to have but if need be we'll live without it. Power cord 75' of extensions - those weigh a ton but we have to have them for Canadian parks where the boxes in many cases are 90m away!
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I did weigh mine completely loaded with me, wife, dog, full water, full LP, bike, all our stuff, at a truck stop 1000 miles into the trip... Almost 500 lbs overweight, all on the rear axle. Yikes!
The basement compartments still have loads of room in them, so I guess it could be even worse. We stopped carrying full water (now 1/4). We have also learned what we do not need after this first trip. It would be pretty difficult to travel with a family of 4 and not overload the boat!
Thanks for the info. I feel your pain.
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We only have 925 pounds of useful load according to the FR supplied sticker in the door jam. Doesn't take much "stuff" to exceed that. Unlike my airplane, I don't think it's illegal to overload it some, but I know that it's not prudent. If I ever do have it weighed, I expect the solution to being overweight will be to store more of the stuff in the Toad and less in the MH.

Given the limited payload of the MBS chassis, I dare say most of us operate overweight much of the time.
We have weighed twice and will weigh once more after loading full food, beverages and clothing before hitting the big road. Among the problems being over the GVWR are breaking components, warranty concerns, liability concerns if unable to stop soon enough and hit someone, and flat tires. It's all engineered to a spec for a reason so we'll live within the ratings. That might put us in the minority, I have no idea. I suspect most don't even weigh or even have much idea of the issue if they don't participate in a forum like this. I learn new stuff here every day!
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There may be some lighter options

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In MFG's defense...we try and try to cut weight.

Quality is heavy and options are heavy, so its not all on the MFG. I just got a lot of weight pulled from our 2 point stabilizer and yet now everyone wants a 4 point. I offer up a radius top, plastic shower curtain and about 99% option a glass shower door adding 70lbs.

We try and let everyone pick and choose options, balancing what is important, but what ends up happening is they take every single option and reduce the CCC.
I have only performed a cursory look underneath the MH, but a couple things I found might be ripe for a weight reduction plan -

1. There seemed to be a good bit of square steel tubing in the frame that possibly could be replaced by aluminum? Yes, I know it's more expensive and you have to TIG weld aluminum.
2. Some of the gas lines were black iron pipe. Why not use lighter weight CSST pipe or equivalent? Since it's flexible, it would be easy to install.

Wild guess but there is probably 50-75 pounds right here.
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We've weighed ours a few times
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Door sticker GVWR 11,030 lbs

1st time was right after leaving PDI. No passengers, no cargo, full diesel and full LPG: 10,060 lbs

2nd time after we had put some "basic" supplies for our 1st overnight
(nothing overboard for 2 people). 1 passenger, full diesel, full LPG, full fresh water and essential cords, sewer connections: 11,020 lbs (that didn't include me as I was in paying for the scale charges) (lesson learned: don't fill fresh water tank)

Don't expect to take 4 people, pet, clothing, food, bedding, fuel and water and not exceed GVWR.
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I did forget to mention on 2nd weight it included a small tool box, Viair air compressor, 2 meter ham radio and a 5lb fire extinguisher but I consider those essential safety equipment.
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