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Old 11-06-2016, 01:04 PM   #1
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Weird ignition lock episode

Hi all. Eric from the Great White North again. You may recall last Jan as we were about to head to the sunny south, our ignition would get a "click" with nothing else happening. We tried various suggestions (thanks to the board helpers that chimed in, love this board!) But to no avail. The 24r was towed to MB and they determined the interlock for the SCR system (dreaded NOX sensors) had blocked startup. They asked when I'd last filled the DEF, to which I responded, last week, about 1000 km ago. So they cleared the code, and she fired up. Unfortunately the sensors let go (again) in April on a trip to Washington DC. Thanks to the good folks at a Baltimore dealership, they were replaced (again) and we haven't had that happen again (yet).

But yesterday on our way to South Carolina, we were stopped in York PA, for a snooze. I pulled into a spot, locked the doors with the key fob and climbed into bed. On awakening, I climbed into the drivers seat, inserted the key and the dash lit up, and then "click" it went black. I couldn't turn the key (unlike the last episode) and the dash didn't light up. I figured I must have left the headlights on, being tired and stupid! As it was raining, I got out the side door of the coach (not the drivers door) and got my jumper cable. As I still haven't wired the solenoid in the battery control centre.

Nothing!

I was befuddled. The headlights wouldn't turn on, no dash lights. No nothing.

Then I opened the drivers door. Eureka! Everything lit up and we were good to go! WTF?

I figure it must be some sort of anti theft protection, but I've done the same scenario before without this happening.

Anyway, just thought I'd post so if someone else had this happen, they'd open the door before trying to jump the battery.
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Old 11-06-2016, 11:33 PM   #2
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Thanks for posting this message. You are right it's so weird but good information. As always someone in here will come up with sort of solution.
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:13 PM   #3
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It sounds like a theft control problem. If you are not going to exit the coach from the drivers side and remotely lock the door after, I would just use the lock button on the dash so it doesn't get confused.
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:33 PM   #4
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I tried to get mine to lock out by trying didn't approaches. Couldn't get it to happen.
My Ford pick up alarms the door when you lock it. My coach doesn't.
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Old 11-08-2016, 07:00 PM   #5
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This situation is where local knowledge is important. The York area has a high concentration of iron and when certain levels of solar flare activity occur the locals know to never lock any thing that can be controled electroically. The magnatism in the area plays havoc with stuff like this.

I recall that a few years ago a Martian vehicle was stuck nearby for a few weeks...


Sorry, I couldn't resist. Glad you resolved your issue for now.
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Old 11-08-2016, 08:03 PM   #6
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If you have a scan gauge or similar obd instrument can you clear those codes yourself without having to go to a dealer.
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Old 11-09-2016, 12:27 AM   #7
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I have obd2link lx. I hope never have to use on my sprinter but had cleared code on friend old car. It works great on any codes.
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Old 11-09-2016, 02:09 PM   #8
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This situation is where local knowledge is important. The York area has a high concentration of iron and when certain levels of solar flare activity occur the locals know to never lock any thing that can be controled electroically. The magnatism in the area plays havoc with stuff like this.

I recall that a few years ago a Martian vehicle was stuck nearby for a few weeks...
Good news, seems the York area also assited in getting over the HRC disturbance in the force. All is well today :-)
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Good news, seems the York area also assited in getting over the HRC disturbance in the force. All is well today :-)
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Old 11-20-2016, 09:09 PM   #10
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I posted this in iRV2 earlier to see if anyone else had some ideas. Things have continued:

Now we're having some sort of electrical glitch. If I lock the doors, say to sleep in the rig, and then try to start it without unlocking, there is a click and the dash goes dark and the ignition won't turn at all. The first time this happened, I waited a few seconds, and the the dash lit up and I started. The next time I locked the doors, slept and the unlocked the doors and then dash went black. Nothing happened until I turned on the dome light, then a buzz in the dash (near the speedometer) and the dash lit up. The next time that didn't work, but opening the drivers door worked and the dash lit up and I could start. The next time that didn't work, but I popped the hood and the dash lit up and I started. Next while driving the battery symbol came on (in South Carolina, seeing a pattern? This doesn't happen when I'm in Canada). I stopped and restarted, and it went away. Then two weeks later, while driving the battery light comes on and after stop and restart it's gone, but in the morning as I unlock the doors the dash goes dark. This time nothing works, until I start the Genny and then click/buzz in the dash and I can start.


It seemed to me to be a battery issue, but when I check the battery when the engine is off, it's at 12.6 volts. And when the dash goes dark nothing lights up inside the cab, and the headlights don't work, even the 12 v outlet under the ashtray is dead? I'm baffled... And the dealer can't replicate this intermittent fault. Any thoughts? Could it be a loose connection? Or the anti theft module?

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

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