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06-25-2016, 10:56 AM
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What are Sumo's and why should I get them?
I keep seeing people referencing adding "Sumo's". What are they, what do they do, why should I get them and what do they cost with installation?
EDIT - I know my ordered RV has a Hellwig sway bar whatever that is.
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06-25-2016, 11:06 AM
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In a nutshell, they are helper springs. They help bring the unit more up to level if you have heavy load. In a MH it would help the ride from being "wallowy" I think. Fairly easy to install the the people there are fantastic!
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06-26-2016, 10:11 AM
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Your mbs has a great ride already but the sumo springs make it even better. They keep the frame and axels in constant contact so that any bump in the road will be absorbed by the springs. I think they made a huge diff. Check out the suspension connection.give them a call great people to deal with. I have also replaced my factory shocks with bielstin shocks factory shocks reave a lot to be desired.
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06-26-2016, 03:27 PM
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I have the sumos in the rear. Easy install. Some difference but I wouldn't call it huge.
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06-26-2016, 06:46 PM
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what he said^^^^^
I did notice a little of sway went away when entering or leaving a gas station onto the road.
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06-26-2016, 09:42 PM
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Front & Rear = Huge
I did rear first and followed up with the front. Made all the difference. Very stable, quiet and smooth ride.
Rig is also very stable when parked and don't need the Bigfoots.
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Magnetic 2019 Isata 5 30FW 4X4 (arrived 2/15/19)
TOAD: 2014 Fiat 500 Abarth
2015 Solera MBS 24R - Hellwig/Sumo Equipped, Sold
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06-26-2016, 10:56 PM
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Are they attached on the top and bottom. ?
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06-27-2016, 01:39 AM
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They replace the rubber bump stops and are attached at the top only
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06-27-2016, 10:24 AM
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When removing mine I sprayed the originals with silicone spray and they popped right out. Made the new ones go in really easy.
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06-27-2016, 01:00 PM
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Check out the March issue of Motorhome Magazine, they did a feature story on them.
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06-27-2016, 01:57 PM
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Front or rear?
I am confused by this post. When I shop on-line, I get Sumos for many different vehicles with nothing specific to my MBS 2401 R. Then, there are Sumo-like non-air types.
Do these go on the front or rear, and are the Sumo springs the only recommended ones to get?
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06-27-2016, 02:06 PM
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Micro-cellular Urethane
I think that I found my answer at eTrailer.com. They have the Micro-cellular Urethane from Super Springs (Sumo) for the Sprinter 3500 for $245. Foam blocks for that much money?
Is that what is being talked about?
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06-27-2016, 02:18 PM
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Yes. I added them to my truck. They are very easy to install yourself (if you want) and make a big difference.
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06-27-2016, 02:25 PM
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Yes- that's them. I paid the price for my tundra and do not regret. I like the no maintenance unlike airbags.
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06-27-2016, 03:12 PM
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I think they really increase stability of the Mercedes chassis, especially in crosswinds or when a semi goes by
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06-27-2016, 03:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspenmeadow
I am confused by this post. When I shop on-line, I get Sumos for many different vehicles with nothing specific to my MBS 2401 R. Then, there are Sumo-like non-air types.
Do these go on the front or rear, and are the Sumo springs the only recommended ones to get?
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Here's a post from a while ago. It lists the sumo springs products which are relevant to most of our Sprinters and provides links to manufacturer product info:
http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ml#post1090533
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06-27-2016, 04:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspenmeadow
I think that I found my answer at eTrailer.com. They have the Micro-cellular Urethane from Super Springs (Sumo) for the Sprinter 3500 for $245. Foam blocks for that much money?
Is that what is being talked about?
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do a search on google shopping. I got a set for my MBS 2400SW from autoplicity.com and paid about $182.
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06-27-2016, 06:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspenmeadow
I think that I found my answer at eTrailer.com. They have the Micro-cellular Urethane from Super Springs (Sumo) for the Sprinter 3500 for $245. Foam blocks for that much money?
Is that what is being talked about?
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Go to suspension connection and make sure to use the coupon code 10extra for 10% off.
SumoSprings - Airless Suspension Support | SuspensionConnection.com
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2015 Solera MBS 24R - Hellwig/Sumo Equipped, Sold
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06-28-2016, 12:19 AM
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I bought mine (SSR-338-47) from Amazon for $210 and received them on May 10th. Installed them myself in about 30 minutes and promptly drove up and over a rather curvy mountain pass the following weekend. I thought it was an exceptional performance upgrade and really felt like the coach was much more stable, especially in cornering and inclement weather (wind) without making the ride overly stiff.
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06-28-2016, 08:31 AM
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Yes, there is some confusion as SuperSprings has three different products. Go to the following YouTube video, and all three are explained. Most people use the bump-stop helpers. They are the least expensive, easiest to install, and provide a great deal of support and ride improvement. The others are more for commercial use or instances where you need A LOT of assistance.
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