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Old 09-12-2016, 10:46 PM   #31
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Just wanted to thank everyone for sharing their knowledge and experience. You have raised a lot of concerns and benefits that i was unaware of. I know that whatever decision we make, i will be a frequent visitor and hopefully contributor to this forum. Looking forward to any additional comments.

Has anyone ever driven a Ford Class C with the cup holder panel removed. I was at a show recently and noticed that one was loose and could be removed. I'm a big guy and Fords always felt too confining for me. Based on some of the comments here, i am wondering if this panel also serves to deaden some of the engine noise.
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:12 PM   #32
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MBS pr Ford

I drove a new rental 30' class C Ford with V10 about 3,000 miles and decided to get the MBS. I have 26,000 miles on a Coachmen Prism LE2150 and am glad I did.
I have never weighed the rig or worried about being overweight, it is much more maneuverable than the Ford, goes up hill without roaring and sounding strained and is much easier to drive without constant correction than the particular Ford I drove. Of course both units can be improved with after market suspension items. I towed a Chevy HHR(3300 #) about 6,000 miles no problem. If I wanted a bigger unit I would have a hard time settling on a Class C with the Ford chassis unless the handling and roaring of the engine under load were dealt with.
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Old 09-13-2016, 06:15 AM   #33
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We have a 2015 2401r and love it for we two and a dog. Planning to tow a Prius this coming winter. After a 37' C and a 33' A, it's better for septuagenarians!
Please take the time to do some research on what is necessary to tow that Prius. From the research I have done. Unfortunately a Prius is NOT flat towable.

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Old 09-13-2016, 09:27 AM   #34
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Not to add "biodiesel" to the fire. But a poster asked which states is diesel sold over B5. I didn't have time to research all 50 states but here is an example. If you buy diesel in Minnesota in the Summer months it is mandated to contain at least 10% biodiesel. I suspect other states are following suit and the percentage of Biodiesel will continue to grow. See this quote.

"B20 by 2018 Currently 10 percent biodiesel is required to be blended with #2 diesel fuel from April 1 to September 30 each year, with the blend lowered to B5 for the colder weather months of October through March. The statute now reads that the mandate would move to B20 on May 1, 2018. Implementation of the B10 mandate was delayed until July 1, 2014 due to inadequate blending infrastructure in the southwestern area of the state, and inadequate regulatory protocol for Minnesota Weights and Measures enforcement. Both of those obstacles were determined to have been overcome in the summer of 2013, and B10 was implemented in 2014"

While I am not sure about the warranty issues above. But the brochure clearly states that Biodiesel over 5% will have a detrimental effect on the fuel system and oil levels. My 2 cents
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Old 09-13-2016, 09:42 AM   #35
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Sprinters and biodiesel

Re the biodiesel issue I am not so sure pumps are being marked for biodiesel. During a trip to the midwest summer 2015 I did see a lot of notices on pumps for B20. During a trip through the western states(as far east as North Dakota) this last year I did not see any notices on any pumps about biodiesel. I am assuming some of these suppliers, particularly the big truck stops had to be using biodiesel in their blends. The Minnesota legislation is scary when the state tells you your vehicle cannot have the recommended fuel.
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Old 09-13-2016, 10:43 AM   #36
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I will probably never own another Sprinter based RV. I recently traded in a 2016 Sunseeker 2400W for a 2017 Sunseeker GTS2800QSF. The MBS was very problematic due to M-B issues, specifically the DEF system, that made it too unreliable to enjoy. In less than 2,500 miles the DEF system failed twice. The first time it took three weeks for parts from Germany to rebuild the DEF system. The second time was the DEF injector, that took a little over a week. After the second repair the dealer was not confident the issue was addressed.

When considering a MBS there are two major issues that will keep me from buying another, the dealer network, and the Cargo Carrying Capacity (CCC).

First, the M-B dealer network. M-B was very responsive to our issues and offered excellent customer service. But there are not enough M-B dealers who will work on a Sprinter, much less a motor home, to offer nationwide support. In metro Atlanta there are two M-B dealers, out of several, who will work on a RV conversion. Look at a M-B dealer map and see how many M-B dealers there are close to Yellowstone or Glacier NP. Or in the midwest in general. This isn't an issue for UPS / Fedex as they have their own repair facilities. And a failure for UPS / Fedex is an inconvenience, the DEF system potentially stranding us in the middle of the Midwest for a couple weeks is a major problem.

I had never bothered to buy a "code scanner" until our MBS. On the advice of our local M-B dealer I put in a ScanGauge II to be able to give the M-B techs the event codes turning on our CEL. While it was a good idea I think it isn't a good sign you need a ScanGauge in a M-B product. Until you have had a vehicle that chronically displays a CEL and DEF warning lights, and experienced a "count down" for a total shut down, you haven't a had a PITA vehicle. I know several folks here will reply they never had an issue, and I'll take their word for it. But if you get a Sprinter like ours was you won't want another...

Now to CCC...or the lack there of! Our "W" had about a thousand pounds CCC. First deduct you and your family weights from 1,000 pounds. What is left is your weight allowance for all your camping gear, food, and three water tanks... I weighed our MBS at a Cat Scale and was already 40 pounds overweight without loading like I would to go on a long trip. Now go look at the Sunseeker GTS 2430, it is the same basic "W" floor plan on a Ford E450 chassis. The CCC is 3,580 pounds, three times the CCC of the MBS chassis with the same floor plan. Which better fits your needs?

The MBS has a lot going for it, roomy cab, decent mileage, and good handling. But I won't consider another based on our experiences. The question you have to ask yourself is "Do I feel lucky?"....
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Old 09-13-2016, 10:59 AM   #37
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I will probably never own another Sprinter based RV. I recently traded in a 2016 Sunseeker 2400W for a 2017 Sunseeker GTS2800QSF. The MBS was very problematic due to M-B issues, specifically the DEF system, that made it too unreliable to enjoy. In less than 2,500 miles the DEF system failed twice. The first time it took three weeks for parts from Germany to rebuild the DEF system. The second time was the DEF injector, that took a little over a week. After the second repair the dealer was not confident the issue was addressed.

When considering a MBS there are two major issues that will keep me from buying another, the dealer network, and the Cargo Carrying Capacity (CCC).

First, the M-B dealer network. M-B was very responsive to our issues and offered excellent customer service. But there are not enough M-B dealers who will work on a Sprinter, much less a motor home, to offer nationwide support. In metro Atlanta there are two M-B dealers, out of several, who will work on a RV conversion. Look at a M-B dealer map and see how many M-B dealers there are close to Yellowstone or Glacier NP. Or in the midwest in general. This isn't an issue for UPS / Fedex as they have their own repair facilities. And a failure for UPS / Fedex is an inconvenience, the DEF system potentially stranding us in the middle of the Midwest for a couple weeks is a major problem.

I had never bothered to buy a "code scanner" until our MBS. On the advice of our local M-B dealer I put in a ScanGauge II to be able to give the M-B techs the event codes turning on our CEL. While it was a good idea I think it isn't a good sign you need a ScanGauge in a M-B product. Until you have had a vehicle that chronically displays a CEL and DEF warning lights, and experienced a "count down" for a total shut down, you haven't a had a PITA vehicle. I know several folks here will reply they never had an issue, and I'll take their word for it. But if you get a Sprinter like ours was you won't want another...

Now to CCC...or the lack there of! Our "W" had about a thousand pounds CCC. First deduct you and your family weights from 1,000 pounds. What is left is your weight allowance for all your camping gear, food, and three water tanks... I weighed our MBS at a Cat Scale and was already 40 pounds overweight without loading like I would to go on a long trip. Now go look at the Sunseeker GTS 2430, it is the same basic "W" floor plan on a Ford E450 chassis. The CCC is 3,580 pounds, three times the CCC of the MBS chassis with the same floor plan. Which better fits your needs?

The MBS has a lot going for it, roomy cab, decent mileage, and good handling. But I won't consider another based on our experiences. The question you have to ask yourself is "Do I feel lucky?"....
FYI fellow MBS Sprinter owners. Freightliner will work on your MBS Sprinter chassis, your motorhome will easily fit in their repair facility, and the repair fee will usually be less than at a MB Sprinter dealership
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Old 09-13-2016, 11:01 AM   #38
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Old 09-13-2016, 12:09 PM   #39
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Not all Freightliner dealers
Sorry, I stand corrected.

Fellow MB Sprinter chassis owners. bookmark the following site.
Once there do a search by the zip code where you need repair.
Freightliner SPRINTER dealers will do warranty service as well as normal service on your Mercedes Benz

Parts and Service | Freightliner Sprinter

Want me to post the email I received from Mercedes Benz USA so I can stop others from attempting to start an arguement, I WILL
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Probably not-----------next time, if there is a next time, it will be a Ford Diesel if they make one for RV's.
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