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Old 02-22-2012, 04:18 PM   #1
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Another Vengeance 306v question (GVWR)

These pictures are from the unit at the recent show in Phoenix. If this is a toy hauler (and it is), how can the cargo weight be so low? Axle rating?
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:59 PM   #2
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Here's the link to the specs listed on the Forest River site.

http://www.forestriverinc.com/nd/def...source=summary

I can't explain why they're so different other than the 100 gals of water if the tank is full would reduce the CCC.

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Old 02-22-2012, 07:27 PM   #3
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Water is not included in the CCC. You must allow for water weight when loading.

The dry weight is much higher than brochure (not surprising) and the GVWR is much lower than brochure (surprising). The difference between the dry weight and GVWR is the CCC.

They must have ran out of heavy duty axels and threw on there what they had. That would be my guess.
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Old 02-22-2012, 10:46 PM   #4
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Another thought...what does the manufacturer's label show for maximum weight per axle?

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Brochure shows GVWR to be 13,945. Sticker shows GVWR to be 12,345. Lot of difference.

Brochure also shows cargo capacity of 3788. Makes you wonder.

Also noticed the dry weight on the show unit is about 1,000 pounds heavier than the brochure dry weight.
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Old 02-23-2012, 10:54 AM   #6
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Brochure shows GVWR to be 13,945. Sticker shows GVWR to be 12,345. Lot of difference.

Brochure also shows cargo capacity of 3788. Makes you wonder.

Also noticed the dry weight on the show unit is about 1,000 pounds heavier than the brochure dry weight.
The guy at the show said the yellow sticker was required because it was being towed to the show by a commercial vehicle and that was the real weight of the trailer. That was without a generator either...not sure if the propane tanks were filled.

So, my confusion continues. As for the real GVWR of the trailer and the axles under it...unknown at this point.
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Old 02-27-2012, 09:12 AM   #7
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Brochure shows GVWR to be 13,945. Sticker shows GVWR to be 12,345. Lot of difference.

Brochure also shows cargo capacity of 3788. Makes you wonder.

Also noticed the dry weight on the show unit is about 1,000 pounds heavier than the brochure dry weight.
An update on this...

I talked to the dealer this weekend who says the real GVWR is 14500 and that they're using 7000 pound axles on the 306V. If all this is true, I;'ll be right at the GVWR when the thing is full of water and rhino and all the stuff the wife brings along. I guess that's all well and good as long as I keep it UNDER the max. What confused me is how the Keystone trailers (Raptor 300MP and Fuzion 305) have GVWRs of 16500? They're all two axle 5th wheel trailers with about the same dimensions.
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and another update. The yellow sticker on our trailer shows 11,400 and the axles are 6000 pounders.
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Makes you wonder how my TT has a CCC of 4100lbs!!! and no, this is not a TH. Just a standard single slide 32ft TT. dry weight of 7100 lbs and a GVWR of 11,200 lbs. I still have have 2000lbs left over even after packing junk I don`t need.
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