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04-07-2017, 02:58 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 2,024
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Originally Posted by Scrapper
Wiscampsin,
Sad to say I did not create the site, I took over from a family that was there for 17 yrs. before. I was in the site next to him for 3 yrs when they pulled his TT out because of health reasons. It had 2 wood slides opposite each other you pushed in and out by hand. It fell apart as soon as they started moving it. Both he and us had a good laugh that it hadn't fallen in while they were in it.
DW was talking about going to Gold Old Days some time this season.
SidecarFlip,
DW and I were looking at a lot like that last year. It has a steel shed big enough for 2 - 40ft TT's and a 12x14 living quarters with sleeping loft. 50 amp pedestal. I can't remember size of the lot or the price but it was more than we can afford.
I'm retired, DW is not.
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We are both retired and have been for a while. When the land came up for sale I was familiar with it as I had permission to hunt and camp on it so I bought it. Took a chunk of retirement funds but any land is an investment that don't depreciate as a rule.
I priced running juice back to it and putting up a cabin and it was 40 grand for electricity. I can buy a lot of gas for my generator (and generators) for 40 grand.
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04-07-2017, 03:01 PM
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#802
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: MA and RI
Posts: 43
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Seasonal camping thread
We leave our electricity on all the time at our seasonal site. We have a built in surge protector. We have neighbors who are full timers and they keep us posted as to problems with the electric at the campground. One extra precaution we do is freeze a glass of water in the freezer and then place a quarter on top of the ice. If we come back after a few days and the quarter is not on the surface, we know the power went off and the freezer defrosted.
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04-07-2017, 03:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by Mike and Rose
We leave our electricity on all the time at our seasonal site. We have a built in surge protector. We have neighbors who are full timers and they keep us posted as to problems with the electric at the campground. One extra precaution we do is freeze a glass of water in the freezer and then place a quarter on top of the ice. If we come back after a few days and the quarter is not on the surface, we know the power went off and the freezer defrosted.
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We leave our power on all the time too. When we get to the camper and the microwave clock is flashing we know the power went out.
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04-07-2017, 03:21 PM
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: MA and RI
Posts: 43
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Originally Posted by Wiscampsin
We leave our power on all the time too. When we get to the camper and the microwave clock is flashing we know the power went out.
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Yes, we check our clocks too. Sometime we loose power for only a few minutes and the refrigerator doesn't defrost. When we had our motor home we would set our refrigerator to auto and it would switch back and forth from electric to propane. Now we have regular house appliances so if the power goes out there is no auto switching to propane.
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04-07-2017, 04:18 PM
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Just as confused as you
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: south central Wisconsin
Posts: 5,108
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I leave the power on all season long. I have a PI EMS-HW30C connected right behind the converter. I disconnect and store the cable for the winter.
A couple of winters ago the campground owners sent us a bill in February for $165 along with a letter stating our camper was using a lot of electricity for the winter. I had to go and see what the problem was. Nothing was plugged into the pedestal and all 3 breakers (50amp, 30amp & 20amp) were switched off.
The meter was the older mechanical type with the spinning disc. Oh boy, was it spinning like crazy.
I reported it to the CG owners and he said that was impossible, they quit working if something goes wrong.
To make a longer story short, it had an internal short dumping power straight to ground. It's a good thing nobody got zapped.
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2014 Flagstaff 832IKBS Classic Super Lite
2018 Silverado 1500 Crew Cab Z71 4WD All Star Edition
Camping since 1989, Seasonal since 2000.
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04-07-2017, 04:21 PM
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Winding Creek
Posts: 82
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike and Rose
We leave our electricity on all the time at our seasonal site. We have a built in surge protector. We have neighbors who are full timers and they keep us posted as to problems with the electric at the campground. One extra precaution we do is freeze a glass of water in the freezer and then place a quarter on top of the ice. If we come back after a few days and the quarter is not on the surface, we know the power went off and the freezer defrosted.
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We place an ice cube in medicine cup in the freezer and if the cube is not a cube . . .
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04-09-2017, 02:46 PM
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 92
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Originally Posted by Wiscampsin
For those interested I built a box to keep our portable PI unit out of the elements. I used treated wood, drilled some small holes for a little ventilation that I screened to keep bugs out. You can see the screened holes on the bottom of pic 2. There are a couple on the top of the side pieces too. I ran a cable lock thru some holes and the metal tab to secure the PI unit to the pedestal. After 9 years so far so good.
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Attachment 134047
I'm pumped as we're going up this weekend to open up the camper for the season.
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I found this earlier today: Surge Guard Universal Lock Hasp - TRC 34590-001 - Surge Protectors - Camping World .
Wondering if the Progressive Industries EMS-PT30X 30A, which I just purchased, would fit in this. The campground we are at seems really picky about everything, wondering if they will get on me about adding something like you did or this version.
Thanks for your help!
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04-10-2017, 04:52 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 5
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Seasonal Camping in SoCal
We are new to seasonal camping this year. Our children are now all adults with busy family lives and we wanted a place to gather for summer adventures. We have always been a camping family, and recently discovered a hidden gem on the north shore of Big Bear Lake. We purchased a lot in Big Bear Shores only a minute walk to the crystal clear water of the largest natural reservoir in California. The beautiful 1.5 hour drive up to 6,800' cinched the deal.
The development has concrete pads, water, power, and sewer. All sites are owner occupied. Some owners choose to rent their sites, while most owners have a FW, TT, or MH on the site for seasonal use.
We ordered a Rockwood 8298ws FW as our lake home and anxiously await its arrival. We are grateful Forest River engineers designed wheelchair accessible modifications for us at no additional cost. We anxiously await our FW's arrival, to join our kayaks and Jeep Wrangler's new summer home.
We have camped in our 21' TT for many years, so we are familiar with the basics. We have an EMS 50 amp, rhino sewer hose with clear connection fitting, and an adjustable water pressure regulator with a gauge.
We would appreciate any advice seasoned seasonal campers might have for us. Our FW will be parked in winter snows, and this is unchartered territory. We have also heard that mice and small critters are frequent guests, which we haven't had to deal with in the past.
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04-10-2017, 04:55 AM
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Winding Creek
Posts: 82
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Welcome
Danah
Welcome to our group. Enjoy the seasonal lifestyle. You can read through the threads and gain much info. Or ask some questions. Sounds like you have a beautiful spot for your camping and gatherings. Enjoy.
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04-10-2017, 08:40 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 13,689
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Originally Posted by joetab1977
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Doesn't look like it'll fit. The Surge Guard Locking Hasp dimensions say 5 3/4" wide and 5 5/8" high. The EMS-PT30X dimensions are 6" wide and 6 1/8"deep. That's the box without the cord. I would highly doubt if they would object to you trying to protect your EMS but it never hurts to ask. Just as long as it doesn't impede access to their electrical box. The thing I built still allows the cover of the campground box to open. Best you can do it print off a pic of what I built and show/ask them.
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04-10-2017, 01:24 PM
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Just as confused as you
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: south central Wisconsin
Posts: 5,108
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Originally Posted by danah
We are new to seasonal camping this year. Our children are now all adults with busy family lives and we wanted a place to gather for summer adventures. We have always been a camping family, and recently discovered a hidden gem on the north shore of Big Bear Lake. We purchased a lot in Big Bear Shores only a minute walk to the crystal clear water of the largest natural reservoir in California. The beautiful 1.5 hour drive up to 6,800' cinched the deal.
The development has concrete pads, water, power, and sewer. All sites are owner occupied. Some owners choose to rent their sites, while most owners have a FW, TT, or MH on the site for seasonal use.
We ordered a Rockwood 8298ws FW as our lake home and anxiously await its arrival. We are grateful Forest River engineers designed wheelchair accessible modifications for us at no additional cost. We anxiously await our FW's arrival, to join our kayaks and Jeep Wrangler's new summer home.
We have camped in our 21' TT for many years, so we are familiar with the basics. We have an EMS 50 amp, rhino sewer hose with clear connection fitting, and an adjustable water pressure regulator with a gauge.
We would appreciate any advice seasoned seasonal campers might have for us. Our FW will be parked in winter snows, and this is unchartered territory. We have also heard that mice and small critters are frequent guests, which we haven't had to deal with in the past.
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The only thing I can say is we have had problems every winter with mice. We've tried every suggestion given here on this forum. We did something a little different this winter and will find out how well it worked on the 13th when we open the camper for the season. Wish us luck.
What we did different is spray fox urine on the blocks and ground under and around the TT. We also used Cab Fresh and fresh 100% mint oil in open containers inside the trailer. We had gone to check it out last month and everything looked good at that time. The real success will be revealed later this week.
Enjoy your new 5er and make a lot of new memories.
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2014 Flagstaff 832IKBS Classic Super Lite
2018 Silverado 1500 Crew Cab Z71 4WD All Star Edition
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04-10-2017, 03:11 PM
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: MA and RI
Posts: 43
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Seasonal camping thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by danah
We are new to seasonal camping this year. Our children are now all adults with busy family lives and we wanted a place to gather for summer adventures. We have always been a camping family, and recently discovered a hidden gem on the north shore of Big Bear Lake. We purchased a lot in Big Bear Shores only a minute walk to the crystal clear water of the largest natural reservoir in California. The beautiful 1.5 hour drive up to 6,800' cinched the deal.
The development has concrete pads, water, power, and sewer. All sites are owner occupied. Some owners choose to rent their sites, while most owners have a FW, TT, or MH on the site for seasonal use.
We ordered a Rockwood 8298ws FW as our lake home and anxiously await its arrival. We are grateful Forest River engineers designed wheelchair accessible modifications for us at no additional cost. We anxiously await our FW's arrival, to join our kayaks and Jeep Wrangler's new summer home.
We have camped in our 21' TT for many years, so we are familiar with the basics. We have an EMS 50 amp, rhino sewer hose with clear connection fitting, and an adjustable water pressure regulator with a gauge.
We would appreciate any advice seasoned seasonal campers might have for us. Our FW will be parked in winter snows, and this is unchartered territory. We have also heard that mice and small critters are frequent guests, which we haven't had to deal with in the past.
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This will be our 4th season as seasonal. We are 1 hour away from our grandkids and our campground has a splash pad which the kids love. We sold our Class C and purchased a park model since we will now be stationary for 6 months. Love the fact that we can drive to our site and just turn the key and relax. No more driving the RV, setting up, and then checking out at 11am. Our favorite pass time is watching the parade of RV coming and going. Love to watch newbies back in their RV. This is from someone who cannot even back up my lawn tractor when the cart is attached! You people who back in those 5th wheels and trailers are my heroes !
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04-10-2017, 03:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Chagrin Falls, Ohio
Posts: 3,225
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Quote:
Originally Posted by danah
We are new to seasonal camping this year. Our children are now all adults with busy family lives and we wanted a place to gather for summer adventures. We have always been a camping family, and recently discovered a hidden gem on the north shore of Big Bear Lake. We purchased a lot in Big Bear Shores only a minute walk to the crystal clear water of the largest natural reservoir in California. The beautiful 1.5 hour drive up to 6,800' cinched the deal.
The development has concrete pads, water, power, and sewer. All sites are owner occupied. Some owners choose to rent their sites, while most owners have a FW, TT, or MH on the site for seasonal use.
We ordered a Rockwood 8298ws FW as our lake home and anxiously await its arrival. We are grateful Forest River engineers designed wheelchair accessible modifications for us at no additional cost. We anxiously await our FW's arrival, to join our kayaks and Jeep Wrangler's new summer home.
We have camped in our 21' TT for many years, so we are familiar with the basics. We have an EMS 50 amp, rhino sewer hose with clear connection fitting, and an adjustable water pressure regulator with a gauge.
We would appreciate any advice seasoned seasonal campers might have for us. Our FW will be parked in winter snows, and this is unchartered territory. We have also heard that mice and small critters are frequent guests, which we haven't had to deal with in the past.
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Welcome to the seasonal side from Chagrin Falls,Ohio. Congrats on your new rig.
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04-10-2017, 09:16 PM
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 92
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Originally Posted by KDHfan
I've been using my PI 30A portable for 3 years now and have never once covered it, even in heavy rain. Never had an issue. Is it necessary to cover them? I might just build something anyway, but I didn't think I really needed to. Thanks for the mod idea.
And from what I've found/read, just about every seasonal leaves their electric on all summer long.
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If I did decide to unplug when we leave this weekend (this will be our first weekend with our first trailer) is there anything I need to be aware of? I understand the refrigerator will go off, and I am fine with that. Just checking because I don't won't to cause any damage my first weekend! We would likely be back again for another weekend in two weeks.
Also, have you seen any checklists on this site where people post what they do before leaving their trailer for a few weeks when it is in a campground?
Thanks,
Joe
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04-11-2017, 04:35 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Chagrin Falls, Ohio
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Originally Posted by joetab1977
If I did decide to unplug when we leave this weekend (this will be our first weekend with our first trailer) is there anything I need to be aware of? I understand the refrigerator will go off, and I am fine with that. Just checking because I don't won't to cause any damage my first weekend! We would likely be back again for another weekend in two weeks.
Also, have you seen any checklists on this site where people post what they do before leaving their trailer for a few weeks when it is in a campground?
Thanks,
Joe
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Your battery will be dead in 2 weeks if you leave it connected while unplugged. Either disconnect it or install a cutoff switch. (take a picture before disconnecting your battery so you remember the color to terminals.)
Also, prop the fridge and freezer open to prevent mold.
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04-11-2017, 07:00 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 105
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Originally Posted by joetab1977
Hi all, I have posted a few times to the general forums. My family and I are about to have our first trailer (a Wildwood KQBTS (I think those are the letters), 2014 (1 previous owner) ) towed to the campground tomorrow, in South Jersey.
Asked for some tips in another post and one that immediately stood out was the EMS surge protector. No one at the dealer mentioned this to me, and I assume the previous owner did not install one. I am thinking I will get a plug in protector since I want to have it as soon as we plug in.
This got me thinking about a more general question (again, a newbie so I have lots of, I assume, basic questions.). When you leave your seasonal site for a few days or longer, do you unplug the power cord? I was thinking of this because I was wondering about the surge protector and that chances that someone would take it. Seems like we are at a nice place, but it did cross my mind.
Thanks for your help!
Joe
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Once we are plugged in, it stayes plugged in until Nov 1st. When i leave for the week, i turn off the water. Are you sure your trailer doesn't already have a surge protector? A friend bought a 2015, and it came with one. Also a fellow camper unplugged every weekend when they left. I watched them haul all their condiments, and anything cold, everytime they came back. Oh heck no! Last year they finally left it plugged in. I also leave 2 of the covered vents open, so the hot air goes out. As to a cover over the camper at the season end? If your going to cover it, get the cloth cover made for your trailer. Or leave it uncovered. They said campers were made to be in the elements, and covering it was not necessary. We were told to never use a tarp. With winds, the tarp actually beats the the sides and roof, wearing off the paint. They also said it can actually slightly jar the air unit and vent covers. So checking the caulking is a must. I'm not saying this is all the right info. But it is what we choose to do. Ours is old, and it still looks like new, except for the eagle decals..good luck! Happy camping!
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04-11-2017, 07:06 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 105
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Originally Posted by crunchman12001
Your battery will be dead in 2 weeks if you leave it connected while unplugged. Either disconnect it or install a cutoff switch. (take a picture before disconnecting your battery so you remember the color to terminals.)
Also, prop the fridge and freezer open to prevent mold.
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Shut the water off
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04-11-2017, 07:08 AM
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Winding Creek
Posts: 82
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Not all trailers come with surge protector. I didn't think ours did, built in 2014, so I called our dealer and he confirmed it did not. So we will be adding one to our wish list before we go camping. I concur about leaving open the roof vents to provided air circulation. Also, park the trailer on wood to keep the tires off the ground. We found that the four jacks were good but then added four more to the center of the trailer to give more stability. We were told to NOT put slide braces on the trailer as this could cause more problems for the slide mechanism. We leave our trailer on all eight jacks year round as the ground ours sits on is very sandy and don't have an issue with the frost heaving. Enjoy your camping!
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04-11-2017, 07:11 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 105
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Originally Posted by wiscoheel
Not all trailers come with surge protector. I didn't think ours did, built in 2014, so I called our dealer and he confirmed it did not. So we will be adding one to our wish list before we go camping. I concur about leaving open the roof vents to provided air circulation. Also, park the trailer on wood to keep the tires off the ground. We found that the four jacks were good but then added four more to the center of the trailer to give more stability. We were told to NOT put slide braces on the trailer as this could cause more problems for the slide mechanism. We leave our trailer on all eight jacks year round as the ground ours sits on is very sandy and don't have an issue with the frost heaving. Enjoy your camping!
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Ours didn't either, but it's a 2005. You would think they should come with one now! Race weekends in Irish Hills, we have had power surges, and thankful we bought one!
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04-11-2017, 09:33 AM
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#820
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 981
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Seasonal camping thread
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Originally Posted by joetab1977
If I did decide to unplug when we leave this weekend (this will be our first weekend with our first trailer) is there anything I need to be aware of? I understand the refrigerator will go off, and I am fine with that. Just checking because I don't won't to cause any damage my first weekend! We would likely be back again for another weekend in two weeks.
Also, have you seen any checklists on this site where people post what they do before leaving their trailer for a few weeks when it is in a campground?
Thanks,
Joe
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Like said earlier, if you leave it unplugged for two weeks, your battery will be dead... even if you have nothing actually plugged in. That is hard on a battery. We plan to leave ours plugged in all season long.
As far as checklists... i think you just need to shut off the water, turn off the water heater and lock up. Thats the beauty of seasonal.
Good luck and happy camping!
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