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Old 08-12-2019, 06:45 PM   #1
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19.5 VS. 19.6 delima

I've been lurking here for a while and decided to join so maybe I can get some expert feedback....
My wife and I are wanting to get a rv to enjoy the great outdoors without dealing with the oppressive Oklahoma heat and so she can have her private bathroom. I have a 2018 Nissan Frontier Pro-4x auto for a TV and we really liked the nobo 19.5 and the size was OK for just the 2 of us + fat cat. That is until we saw the 19.6 online that came out this year. I plan on getting the prodigy brake controller and the Andersen WD hitch (to save weight) and since it's just the 2 of us, don't plan to pack heavy. I really would like to keep the frontier since it fits nicely in the garage, but need advice to see if I'm way out of my league trying to pull this combo with the 4.0l or would ya'll say it should be fine if we stay out of the rockies and northern states. Lol.
Thx for any help and don't worry about hurting my feelings with the replies.
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Old 08-12-2019, 09:26 PM   #2
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I am only asking because in my simpleton mind the 19.5 is around 6 to 700# lighter, but is a single axle which usually means added tongue weight. The 19.6 having dual axles would in theory handle the added weight better. The TV is rated at around 1K payload and 6100 towable, but I know the cross section has a lot to do with it and both are around the same height and width wise. Am I missing an important piece of the puzzle or should they both tow about the same in theory?
BTW- I just turned 49 last week so my days of racing semi's in the passing lane are over. I'm just looking for something that we won't outgrow in short order since RV's like cars take quite a hit in depreciation as soon as they leave the lot (unless it's an Airstream).
The only negative I see is the added axle will mean higher toll and tire costs and maybe trying to fit the longer one into the driveway...

Also if someone with the 19.5 can confirm that the posted overall length of 22'8" is truly from ball to bumper, I'd appreciate it.
Thx again.
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Old 08-15-2019, 07:57 PM   #3
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I think you're underestimating the weight gain. Also, the tongue weight of the dual axle 19.6 is quite a bit more, something to consider when the payload capacity is only 1k.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:03 PM   #4
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I think you're underestimating the weight gain. Also, the tongue weight of the dual axle 19.6 is quite a bit more, something to consider when the payload capacity is only 1k.
125#. Thing is the 19.5 has a big storage area under the queen bed right in the front of the camper which I imagine would get you in trouble real quick with tongue weight. The 19.6 has the jackknife and murphy so not much room for storage directly over tongue. I might have to just wait and see one in person to get actual weights. The 19.6's I've seen online were all under the published dry weights according to the stickers (all the 19.5's were over btw ), but I guess we'll just have to see when one gets closer to home.

Do most dealers have a way to measure actual tongue weights without a lot of grief? might try that too.

Thx for the heads up DES!
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Old 08-17-2019, 12:52 PM   #5
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Of those 2 choices, I like the 19.6 better, but my use case may be extremely different from yours.

The big reason I prefer the 19.6 is the 2nd axle. That gives you almost a ton more cargo carrying capacity. Now, maybe you and your wife and fat cat don't have that much stuff and CCC isn't that big a deal, but I like the idea of being able to load up with bike and kayaks and gear.

I am actually leaning toward the 19.1, even though I don't plan to haul a 4 wheeler. I like the idea that it has a big "den" that can be converted to different uses--dining, sleeping, open area for sitting, has a party deck, and will have plenty of storage space.
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Old 08-17-2019, 01:44 PM   #6
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Thanks centex. I like the second axle too for the easier towing and better weight distribution. The 19.1 is nice, but the tongue weight puts it out of our league plus we are old and dont want to crawl over each other in middle of the night to pee with the east west bed.
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Old 08-18-2019, 12:05 PM   #7
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I can only comment on the 19.5, as that's the one I have. I have been extremely happy with it thus far. We have had it for jist over a year, and its seen about 5000 miles of road time so far, and it's about to see another 1800 miles next week. It's been flawless, except for a couple minor issues that I've resolved on my own. I couldnt be happier with our 19.5 purchase, and if your frontier has a tow rating of 6100 lbs you should be fine. The only consideration is tongue weight. I believe the 19.5 tongue weight is around 350 lbs.
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Old 09-14-2019, 02:31 PM   #8
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Well a 19.6 showed up recently at a dealer close to home and I was able to get a gander at it yesterday and believe it would be a perfect size for us. The sticker on door showed a dry weight of just over 4200# which I think should be fine, but the weight police might think otherwise for the hypothetical chance the zombie apocalypse breaks out and I have to pack everything I own into the camper and hit the road! Lol. I liked everything except for the cheezy slider sofa with the makeshift armrests, but would probably look at switching it out to a theater loveseat with end tables to fill slide. Just not sure how couch is attached (sitting on) slider or how far the slider floor extends under couch. Will have to take closer look at it when I take the DW, that was visiting family when I went, to look at it. It will probably be a while before I can jump on one since the sticks and bricks just got a new roof with a crazy high deductible (thx The Hartford! ) and I'll need to wait out the 737Max situation (line of work) before making another big purchase.
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for their input in helping us with the decision.

On a side note: How long does a particular model stay in production? Does it vary like cars or is it pretty standard like just a couple of years before a redesign?
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Old 09-14-2019, 03:34 PM   #9
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On a side note: How long does a particular model stay in production? Does it vary like cars or is it pretty standard like just a couple of years before a redesign?
I've seen models last only one model year. Our current TT was only around for two model years, 2015 and 2016.
It all depends on sales and demand.
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Does it vary like cars or is it pretty standard like just a couple of years before a redesign?
I forgot to answer this.
If you look on a FR brochure, it'll say that they can make changes at any time, even mid-model year. Our previous trailer was an early built 2007 but had interior design fabrics/patterns from the 2006 model year. Redesigns can also happen mid-year. Seen it happen many times.
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