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04-15-2017, 07:57 AM
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Happy Camper
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Huntsville, AL
Posts: 289
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First time camping with no hookups
I am a fairly seasoned camper. However this weekend I am camping for the first time with no hookups. Any tips or suggestions? I know I will have to watch my battery level. I will have a generator for occasional use. The other thing is I will need to fill up my water tank for the first time. Usually we just hook up to a water hose. At least the weather should be mild I will be close to Birmingham Alabama.
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04-15-2017, 08:14 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 10,505
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Depending on your fridge model, you -might- have a "environmental" heater
in your fridge. If you do, it's job is to warm that little strip of metal
that's between the freezer and fresh food doors to keep it from gathering
condensation.
The problem is that heater is a battery HOG. Some have a switch to
shut off the heater.
Others of us have disconnected the heater just so we can camp off
the grid and not have dead batteries in a day or 2.
There has been much discussion here about this heater.
I disconnected mine and we never miss it, off the grid or on.
IF all your camping was in Florida you might need it. Me, not so much...
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04-15-2017, 08:21 AM
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
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Make sure you're very conservative with your water usage. I don't know the size of your tank but my wife and daughters managed to go thru 46 gallons in two days our first time out, after I repeatedly warned them about it. Now that we have some experience with it, we can go 4-5 before running out.
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04-15-2017, 08:59 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: x
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Off the grid can provide some great camping with little or no inconvenience from what you are used to. Start out with empty waste tanks, at home put 3-5 gals down your back tank so you don't waste your on board water. Fill potable water full, ensure propane is full, turn lights off when not in use, use paper plates. No need to shower every day.
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04-15-2017, 09:12 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 903
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First time camping with no hookups
Full fresh water tank full propane full batteries. If your worried about water go to Walmart and buy some of the portable water totes found in the camping section. We bought two six gallon cans. Extra 12 gallons will go a long way. Make sure your hot water tank is full also so you don't have to use six gallons to fill it when you get there. You'll be fine just learn to be conservative with everything and all will go well.
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04-15-2017, 11:44 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Goodyear, Arizona
Posts: 33,556
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Our essential items for dry camping or boondocking:
Generator
Tote tank for gray water
Dual battery setup
6 gallon water jug
400w inverter
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04-15-2017, 11:55 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 93
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonylmiller
I am a fairly seasoned camper. However this weekend I am camping for the first time with no hookups. Any tips or suggestions? I know I will have to watch my battery level. I will have a generator for occasional use. The other thing is I will need to fill up my water tank for the first time. Usually we just hook up to a water hose. At least the weather should be mild I will be close to Birmingham Alabama.
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You may want to check your distilled battery water to make sure they are full.
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04-15-2017, 11:58 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Bow WA
Posts: 769
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I would add: use a voltage meter to accurately measure the health of your batteries. I installed a permanent meter next to my switches for easy reading.
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04-15-2017, 12:18 PM
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jkoenig24
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Box Elder, SD (formerly NY)
Posts: 953
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When was the last time you SANITIZED your water system?
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04-15-2017, 12:26 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Bend,Oregon
Posts: 360
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As a long-time and avid boondocker (dry camper) I will tell you the responses you've received are excellent. Because I boondock a lot I also carry a portable jump starter (charges at home on AC) just in case. I've never had to use it for myself but have made more than one stranger happy that I had one.
If you find you enjoy it, and believe me, it is much more relaxing than an RV park or campground you should consider solar. Mine keeps my batteries at full charge all day and gives me adequate reserve to run the propane furnace on those cold nights in some of the places we camp.
You just made me want to jump in the RV and take off for a week! Enjoy.
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04-15-2017, 12:27 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 2,024
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jkoenig24
When was the last time you SANITIZED your water system?
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Me? Yesterday. Did the HWH as well. White vinegar and water
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04-15-2017, 12:39 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Bend,Oregon
Posts: 360
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SidecarFlip
Me? Yesterday. Did the HWH as well. White vinegar and water
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I'm not sure white vinegar will actually sanitize your tanks. I use white vinegar to remove the chlorine taste after santization.
Here are my procedures based on US Public Health Service sanitizing procedure that are in conformance with the approved procedures if RVIA and ANSI A119.2 and the U.S. Public Health Service.
The ounces and gallon references are based on my tank sizes. For your tanks: "Use one of the following methods to determine the amount of common household bleach needed to sanitize the tank:
Multiply “gallons of tank capacity” by .13; the result is the ounces of bleach needed to sanitize the tank.
The standard solution must have four (4) hours of contact time to disinfect completely. Doubling the solution concentration allows for contact time of one (1) hour"
1. Remove In-line Water Filter
2. Drain the Hot water tank, flush with city water running
3. Replace hot water tank cap
4. Add some fresh water to tank
5. 6 Oz of Bleach; 12 Oz will reduce wait time to one hour (41 gal Fresh Water + 6 gal hot water=47 gal x .13=6 oz or 12 oz for one hour
6. Fill Fresh Water tank
7. Turn on water pump
8. Turn on hot water faucet until hot water tank is full (pump will stop)
9. Add 6 gallons of water to replace water in hot water tank
10. Turn on hot water faucet until air bleeds out and smell bleach. Turn off hot water faucet and turn on cold faucet until smell bleach.
11. Let sit for 4 hours; 1 hour if used 12 Oz of bleach
12. Open all faucets hot and cold and pump out water. Pump is 2.8gpm so should empty in about 15 minutes.
13. Add one Gallon of white vinegar and fill tank
14. Turn on all hot and cold faucets; let run until dry.
15. Install Water Filter (new every 12 months); flush with about 40 gallons of water
16. Add Fresh water as needed
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04-15-2017, 05:41 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 840
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Excellent advice all. We often camp at campgrounds with limited or no services, but some have water bibs within less than 100 feet of your site. We can usually avoid the added weight of carrying full fresh water tanks by bringing extra hoses and hooking up once we get to our site.
Also, I would recommend a generator such as Honda which operates as an inverter and is ultra-quiet. We've been using hours for 20+ years with zero complaints from ouir camping neighbors.
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04-15-2017, 07:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Albuquerque
Posts: 1,222
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Siphon
Take a couple of jugs of extra water, and a hose to siphon them into your fresh water tank. I can't believe how long it takes 5 gallons of water to empty when you're holding it up against the side of the trailer. I set mine on the tailgate or on a step ladder and let it siphon into the trailer. My sister-in-law practically emptied our water tank with one shower. I carry lots (30 gal.) of extra water.
I always sanitize my tank at the beginning of the season. About 1/2 cup of Clorox for 30 gallons, run all faucets, let sit overnight, fill and flush twice.
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04-15-2017, 09:13 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 2,024
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lacamastraveler
I'm not sure white vinegar will actually sanitize your tanks. I use white vinegar to remove the chlorine taste after santization.
Here are my procedures based on US Public Health Service sanitizing procedure that are in conformance with the approved procedures if RVIA and ANSI A119.2 and the U.S. Public Health Service.
The ounces and gallon references are based on my tank sizes. For your tanks: "Use one of the following methods to determine the amount of common household bleach needed to sanitize the tank:
Multiply “gallons of tank capacity” by .13; the result is the ounces of bleach needed to sanitize the tank.
The standard solution must have four (4) hours of contact time to disinfect completely. Doubling the solution concentration allows for contact time of one (1) hour"
1. Remove In-line Water Filter
2. Drain the Hot water tank, flush with city water running
3. Replace hot water tank cap
4. Add some fresh water to tank
5. 6 Oz of Bleach; 12 Oz will reduce wait time to one hour (41 gal Fresh Water + 6 gal hot water=47 gal x .13=6 oz or 12 oz for one hour
6. Fill Fresh Water tank
7. Turn on water pump
8. Turn on hot water faucet until hot water tank is full (pump will stop)
9. Add 6 gallons of water to replace water in hot water tank
10. Turn on hot water faucet until air bleeds out and smell bleach. Turn off hot water faucet and turn on cold faucet until smell bleach.
11. Let sit for 4 hours; 1 hour if used 12 Oz of bleach
12. Open all faucets hot and cold and pump out water. Pump is 2.8gpm so should empty in about 15 minutes.
13. Add one Gallon of white vinegar and fill tank
14. Turn on all hot and cold faucets; let run until dry.
15. Install Water Filter (new every 12 months); flush with about 40 gallons of water
16. Add Fresh water as needed
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Isn't bleach a known carcinogen?
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04-15-2017, 10:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Southern NM
Posts: 9,505
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SidecarFlip
Isn't bleach a known carcinogen?
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Everything on Earth is a known carcinogen. That's why I quit paying attention to that kind of info
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04-15-2017, 10:59 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 10,833
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As far as sanitizing the water system. We only use municipal treated water, There is enough chlorine in it to kill anything. I sanitized when I first bought the trailer and that was it. I do run some bleach through my water softener after winter storage though.
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04-16-2017, 06:45 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: austinburg ohio
Posts: 821
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NO HOOKUPS? THATS LIKE STAYING AT A MOTEL WITH NO POOL AND b&w TV
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04-16-2017, 08:43 AM
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Boss Ox & Drovergirl
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: N.E. Ohio Snow Belt
Posts: 1,340
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To help out with water use, we bring a 5 gal carbouy of "home" water for drinking, use the fresh water tank for other uses.
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