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Old 10-15-2010, 04:31 PM   #21
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hummmmm ,is the problem maybe that your talking about the Salem, Which when looking at Flagstaffs the dealer in Grain Valley Mo stated these are the bottom line of the FR's. The prices are lower and that has been discussed ie the lower prices = lower quality stuff. Last time I checked you can't get a new Mercedees for the cost of a new Ford Escort
This dealer went on to state that the quality is a lot better throughout on the flagstaff over the Salem, but you well pay more.. If you compare them you can see there diffences, a very simple one is how cheap the mattress is in the salem over the flagstaff/ rockwood. No they aren't top of the line but the one I sat on in the Salem was like a hard box with a stiff metal frame around the entire bed.
Also on the salem we were told a 27 ft was around $13K while a 27 ft Flagstaff was $20K...... you tell me if I am wrong but there is a diiference here and this might explain some of the poster problems.
I will add that nothing is perfect, nothing is going to be 100 % but every one knows furniture from walmart might look nice and have a great price but is still from walmart. No matter how you look at it it still isn't the same as furniture from a top retailer selling something similar but built with quality products and materials and a higher price.

I say call FR, ask for the work to be corrected or trade it back to the dealer you bought from??
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Old 10-15-2010, 04:56 PM   #22
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8. TT is overly heavy (empty weight is posted as 5660 and I expected at least 6000lbs but mine completely empty weighs over 9900 lbs.)
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Old 10-15-2010, 04:58 PM   #23
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I have been in the service business for years, and this is what I've noticed, peoples expectations are unbelievable...they want the best and yet don't want to pay for it...
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Old 10-15-2010, 05:04 PM   #24
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I have been in the service business for years, and this is what I've noticed, peoples expectations are unbelievable...they want the best and yet don't want to pay for it...
So let me get this straight, you are telling me it is ok for manufacturers to not do stuff right, and that it's ok so long as you don't pay too much for it?

No wonder this industry sucks so bad. lol
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Old 10-15-2010, 05:50 PM   #25
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So let me get this straight, you are telling me it is ok for manufacturers to not do stuff right, and that it's ok so long as you don't pay too much for it?

No wonder this industry sucks so bad. lol
Read again my post, it said expectations are too high and people are not willing to pay for quality stuff...ex. op was complaining carpet are coming out when she vacuums, that's because its the lowest quality carpet that is being used...why is that? because that's what the manufacturer has to use in order to lower the price of the trailer...cabinetry, same thing. if they started using higher end stuff, then the price of the trailer would go up and sales would go down...bottom line is, cheaper trailer sells, high end not as much...supply and demand. I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying THE MAJORITY OF people doesn't want to pay for quality, especially right now. I don't remember mentioning it's ok for manufacturer to not do stuff right...reread my post again.
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Old 10-15-2010, 07:42 PM   #26
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Well color me a cheapskate then lol. It'll be a cold day in hell before I spend 60+ grand to still get mediocre quality. Or even spend half that really.

The OPs trailer is coming apart and by your standards it should be ok for it to fall apart because it's a "cheap" trailer? I am not buying it.
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Old 10-15-2010, 08:32 PM   #27
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FASTMIXER; They dont build trailers like they did in the eighty's. Nowaday they try to runs as many trailers as they can on the assembly line and you have to almost rebuild a trailer when you buy it now. It has been the case with almost all my trailers I owned except my terry taurus 1984 30 feet. I can say that this trailer was almost perfect. I dont know too many company that build almost perfect trailers unless you pay the high price for superior quality.
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Isn't the Salem a lower-priced model?
I looked at the Palamino 5ers when we were shopping, and wouldn't buy one of those either. You could easily tell that it wasn't made as good. The kitchen cabinet drawers didn't even have metal sliders, just the old sloppy wood-on-wood design of 30 years ago, except not as well made!
We love our Flagstaff, and the quality of construction is excellent.
You get what you pay for.
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Also on the salem we were told a 27 ft was around $13K while a 27 ft Flagstaff was $20K...... you tell me if I am wrong but there is a diiference here and this might explain some of the poster problems.
If the prices you mention are correct, how much can the OEMs cut costs? This is assuming (I know) that the major appliances (furnace, water heater, AC, etc) are identical.
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