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Old 10-15-2010, 10:20 PM   #31
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The age old saying "You get what you pay for" sort of applies here up to a point- We all know a new Pinto is cheaper than a new Lincoln, but you still should be able to expect reasonable quality control on both vehicles! They should both have everything that they are equipped with in good working order, and stay that way for at least a few years. And, just because you paid a premium price for the Lincoln, they both will have problems at relatively the same time, later on down the road. Randy

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Old 10-15-2010, 11:01 PM   #32
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An old saying in the sales field.
There are 3 things when you are a customer to consider.
Pick at least 2 of the 3 when buying an item because if you get the lowest price you will probably get lowest quality or service as well. Mid price will probably get you 2 of the 3. The highest price means you get all 3 or you are getting screwed...most of the time it is true.

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Old 10-16-2010, 12:04 AM   #33
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Originally Posted by Mr. Black View Post
Well color me a cheapskate then lol. It'll be a cold day in hell before I spend 60+ grand to still get mediocre quality. Or even spend half that really.

The OPs trailer is coming apart and by your standards it should be ok for it to fall apart because it's a "cheap" trailer? I am not buying it.
A Salem trailer doesn't cost 60+ grand, from what someone posted, it's less than 15k...and op complains of low quality and defects which is different from coming apart...and good for you for not buying it...I'm not selling anything
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Old 10-16-2010, 12:32 AM   #34
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It's as simple as this, don't buy the cheapest if you want quality... what we want as consumers are perfection, no hassle, great service, and people bending backward to please us, if we complain we expect immediate response, if they don't,we get aggravated, we expect the dealer to be perfect, we expect the salespeople to be perfect and nice and all that even if we nag them to death, if they don't act the way we want them to, we rant and post nasty things about them,we complain to high heavens that they're the worse, of course some dealer are exactly like that, I've had dealings with some of them...the thing is, anything that's man made are prone to defects, I don't know of anything that is man made and are mass produced that are defect free, look at a bentley, it's a labor intensive car to manufacture and they don't mass produce it, it's hand made but since the buyer expect perfection they can only produce several at a time and not mass produce get the idea. As a consumer, of course I don't want it to be this way, but some people just don't get it. and some do, those that do are happy with their RV/trailer, those that don't get it are the one who's posting all these rants. Imagine a post complaining of a carpet coming apart when they vacuum it??? Why do people think we live in Disneyland????????
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Old 10-16-2010, 12:48 AM   #35
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Be objective

My point being, be objective when you complain, don't try to exaggerate things like what the original op posted just to get sympathy from others, others can see through it, if you try to make it worse and exaggerate, you come off as ranting and it irritates people. Not all of course, some like Mr. Black will believe anything and will quickly jump to conclusion even if a post doesn't make sense. Ex. blaming manufacturer for the carpet (falling apart)
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Old 10-16-2010, 04:44 AM   #36
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WoW, talk about looking at something from two different directions.
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Old 10-16-2010, 01:37 PM   #37
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i bought a salem because it seemed the most practical to me. $30k for a 42 foot TT that was on a soild frame, 2 slides, full kitchen with house appliances and was styled nice inside and out.

looked at some of the 60k rigs at minards in weyburn and they wanted 60k + for something with some fancier staples and counter tops in it.
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Old 10-16-2010, 01:40 PM   #38
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Originally Posted by eightrac View Post

8. TT is overly heavy (empty weight is posted as 5660 and I expected at least 6000lbs but mine completely empty weighs over 9900 lbs.)
Holy Schnikes!!

How is that even possible?? How can the ultra lite frame and axles even hold that much?? I cant imagine those tires are rated for a weight anywhere near 5 tons!
There is something seriously wrong with that TT if it weighs 5 tons. You are talking about almost twice as much weight as the UVW sticker says it is.
Are you hiding bars of gold in it somewhere?
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Old 10-16-2010, 05:07 PM   #39
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[QUOTE=fastmixer;53639]Thank you. I just want to get this thing fixed but that looks doubtful.QUOTE]

Hang in there. I've had my share of problems, but FR will help. Just in case, here's that ph# again, 574-642-2640.

It's okay to vent. Get some of that frustration out. When you feel ready to tackle some of thise problems, just ask some questions. There are some knowledable people on this forum. If you ask about a specific problem you can probably get some good info. Most people on here will do what they can to help to get you back to camping.

Welcome to the forum and good luck to you.

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Old 10-16-2010, 05:28 PM   #40
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