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Old 10-23-2012, 06:33 PM   #41
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How much weight do you think they saved by moving the fridge outside to kitchen and tossed the extra compartment and slide out shelf for the stove? I am guessing the fall units with hydraulic landing gear and electric rear stabs would add some weight?
Very true. For the earlier ones, the weight was shaved by changing the front wall, bedroom chest, wider aisle, two windows instead of three and fewer cabinets on the living room TV wall.
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Old 10-24-2012, 08:50 AM   #42
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if your sticker says 13,000 lbs dry. then the computer printed out the wrong weight. there hasnt been a unit leave the factory over 12,500 lbs and thats with an outside kitchen. published weights are units equiped with standard features.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:00 AM   #43
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if your sticker says 13,000 lbs dry. then the computer printed out the wrong weight. there hasnt been a unit leave the factory over 12,500 lbs and thats with an outside kitchen. published weights are units equiped with standard features.
I honestly don't know of anyone's sticker that is BELOW 12,500. My late year 2012 is 12,6xx, without the 2nd A/C. I had 1300 pounds of payload before I added the 2nd A/C unit. Add a battery and propane and now you're to 1000lbs.
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:21 PM   #44
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I received a call today from FR. They began investigating this matter today and are having a unit built like mine brought to the scales in the morning.
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:51 PM   #45
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Interesting...

They would apparently rather spend more money investigating the problem then fixing it. I understood that they weigh every unit as built and that's where the weight on the yellow sticker comes from. Not true?

Whether the CCC is 500, 1000 or 1500 lbs, it's not enough for a 42' camper that you could full-time in.

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Old 10-24-2012, 08:07 PM   #46
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Interesting...

They would apparently rather spend more money investigating the problem then fixing it. I understood that they weigh every unit as built and that's where the weight on the yellow sticker comes from. Not true?

Whether the CCC is 500, 1000 or 1500 lbs, it's not enough for a 42' camper that you could full-time in.

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You are absolutely correct. They just can't figure out how mine got that high weight sticker on it. I responded "because it weighs that much"! Yes, it was one of the first ones built. At first, the engineer asked the plant if it was possible that the camper was weighed with all of the holding tanks full, to which they replied 'no'. The advertised weight is 11873 per brochure and website. The rep and engineer stated that they had not seen one leave there under 12,400, but over 13k?? According to the engineer, the 365 should have a payload of 1800 pounds. Mine has 137 pounds according to the sticker(with full tank of water and genny). He said that propane is already figured in at the factory and does not need to be added on the weight after purchase. He was very cordial and we discussed several thoughts but no real answers today. He stated it would be a long shot that the wrong sticker was put on it. Especially with the serial numbers on it! I sent him pictures of all the stickers after our conversation. Again, could not believe it weighed that much. I told him the factory tires had been replaced to give me more tire, but no way could I do anything for the axle weight rating. He will be getting back to me "as soon as possible".
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:04 AM   #47
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Gentlemen,
While I cannot offer a positive contribution to your problem here, I thank you for inspiring me to insist that my unit have the upgraded axles. I will have my unit fully equipped like described here with gear and supplies for 6 people to survive for a week. There was no way the stock axles would have survived. I will probably have to also look into tires still. Once one blows out and I have the spare on it I will order a tire and wheel package with appropriate ratings. Can anyone recommend a vendor for tire & wheel packages? Tirerack seems more suited for pas vehicles.
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Gentlemen,
While I cannot offer a positive contribution to your problem here, I thank you for inspiring me to insist that my unit have the upgraded axles. I will have my unit fully equipped like described here with gear and supplies for 6 people to survive for a week. There was no way the stock axles would have survived. I will probably have to also look into tires still. Once one blows out and I have the spare on it I will order a tire and wheel package with appropriate ratings. Can anyone recommend a vendor for tire & wheel packages? Tirerack seems more suited for pas vehicles.
If you get 7k axles, you will have 9/16" wheel studs and 8 lug wheels. There are lots of 17.5" combo wheel and industrial tires out there. They are a little more pricey, however they handle the weight without any problem.
If you have 6k axles, you have 6 lug wheels and not much chance of the HEAVY DUTY industrial tires. What I have done, until this is settled, I bought Goodyear G614 tires in 235/85/16 size. They have a load capacity at 110 psi of 3750 pounds per tire. That is 15k worth of tires on 6k axles. Like I said, that is what I am currently running. There are a couple of other manufacturers out there like Bridgestone and Michelin that have industrial tires with teh weigth ratings of 3750 per tire.
As first mentioned, in the 17.5" combos have over 4k per tire ratings. One place I suggest you call is Tredit Tire(They have website). They sale all types of trailer tires for campers to boats to utility trailers.
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Wow it sounds like we hit the hornets nest with a stick. 1st thing I want to Thank Gofmedic for helping bring this issue to light. 2nd I spoke with the factory again today since today was the completion build date. I wanted to confirm my unit was indeed built with the correct axles so I wouldn't have to deal with 6k axles at the PDI. To the best of their ability they assured me that my unit "was" built with the 7k 8lug axles. There may a chance I'm getting the first 365saq with the new 7k upgrade. As for FSCHAMBE congrates on your purchase. It sounds like you too ordered the 7k upgrade if you got the info from this post I'm glad it's becoming useful to others.

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Old 10-30-2012, 03:39 PM   #50
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The 365 that the factory weighed with the options like mine weighed 12905!!! Now they know there is a problem. They are preparing a remedy to the situation, but no time frame given. Just a heads up for us owners..Oh and by the way, you guys out there may be used to it, but I am not currently in my home state, but RV are being weighed at most weigh stations throughout the southeast now. Mine would never pass any of them the way it currently sits.
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