365saq weight ?

[golfmedik]

I cut an I-beam and used two $14 receivers from Harbor Freight to make the base.



The rack I bought from Discountramps.com. It is a fold down 3 bike, platform carrier $149 with free shipping. Absolutely love the bikes there where I can watch them.

[Heldapay]

You did a fantastic job with that! I'm with you....I think I would rather have them where they can be seen. Hmmm...maybe another project for my already-overworked hubby!! Thanks for posting the pics!

[hp178]

sorry for the ignorance. where do I go to get my trailer weighed?

[Dave_Monica]

Originally Posted by hp178

sorry for the ignorance. where do I go to get my trailer weighed?

Easiest for most is at CAT scales at any truck stop. The scale has separate sections for the trucks front axle, back axle and camper axles. Weight all three when hooked up then repeat the truck weights unhooked and then you can calculate unloaded truck weight, loaded truck weight, pin weight, camper weight and total combined weight.

Dave

[golfmedik]

Originally Posted by hp178

sorry for the ignorance. where do I go to get my trailer weighed?

There are many Certified Cat Scale locations that you can find here CAT Scale Pull onto the scale with your rig. Make sure the front tires and rear tires of TV are on separate plates, then make sure that the trailer tires are on a different than the TV. You may have to stand on the running board to reach the speaker. Press the button and tell them "private weigh" they will tell you when it's captured. Pull off of the scale and find a place to park. Then go in and pay(usually around $10). Then find a place to drop the trailer, go back and weigh just the truck. Go in and pay(around $2 this time) and then go hitch up. Then you can determine the total weights of both, the weight of each one individually and the amount of pin weight you have.

[Herk7769]

Originally Posted by golfmedik

As stated, I am far from the weight police, just very interested in what I am towing now.

Then the "weight police" have done their job.

Being made aware there is a deficiency in understanding is the first step toward learning something new.

I try to learn at least one new thing every day.

I forget so much each day that this gets easier as I get older.

[golfmedik]

Originally Posted by herk7769

Then the "weight police" have done their job.

Being made aware there is a deficiency in understanding is the first step toward learning something new.

I try to learn at least one new thing every day.

I forget so much each day that this gets easier as I get older.

Very true! I try not to be the one to tell others they should pull their rigs. I was only pointing out my experience. But you are correct, they have got me to thinking and being in public safety for almost 30 years now, I've seen things that could've been avoided with a little thinking
As far as learning something new, as much as I am forgetting these days, it is getting harder and harder to keep up!!

[cmptrkd]

I've posted earlier in this thread. I have just been so busy, I haven't done any research on my unit specifically, or weighed my unit. I have a 2012, but the earlier model delivered in August 2011, so my layout is very similar to golfmedik. I have two A/C's, outside kitchen, table and chairs in place of booth, and the king bed. The tag on my unit stated I have 1313lbs of cargo carrying capacity, but then cautions me that I need to subtract for water, at 450lbs for a full tank. One thing they didn't consider is people (like me) who fill their water heater as well, so you're not down 10 (or 6) gallons of water right off the bat. That's an additional 84lbs for me. Then I added the washer / dryer. (not included in weight sticker) I didn't order our unit with them, as my parents had given my wife and I a significant gift card to a local appliance retailer, but we bought the same models Forest River installs when they are ordered. We did the Whirlpool washer WFC7500VW and dryer LDR3822PQ. The washer weight is 172lbs, and the dryer 90lbs and they were delivered from the retailer to the dealership and installed before we took possession. Bottom line.... Subtract for a full tank of water (we almost never camp where we have water hookup) and subtract for the water heater, and the washer / dryer and I've got capacity for 517lbs. I'm being conservative when I say I'm certain I'm at least 1000 lbs over... if not closer to 1500. I need to weigh our unit and I will do that when I remove it from indoor storage in the next couple weeks. We camp on average every other weekend, so we literally have the thing stocked. We carry nothing from the house except some perishable food. The Montana I traded in had a larger water tank, but it also had over 2,500lbs of carrying capacity. I have placed a call to the facotry and I am just awaiting a call back. I'm hoping they will make some modifications to my rig as well, as I don't feel it's safe to travel when you're that overloaded. I'll post any updates to my progress for anyone interested.

[golfmedik]

Keep us informed please. I believe I know why we are having these issues, but it's just my opinion. What rating does you pin box have on it? Mine is now 15,500 and I am near the rating now. A couple hundred shy with all I carry, but as I stated before, these are BIG and HEAVY units to come from the factory with 6k axles. If you read between the lines, it is the options that get you. My line of thinking would be that you build it to carry all the "options" you offer and then a decent cargo carrying capacity. But that is not what has happened here. I just hope that our pin boxes hold up to the rating that they have specified. I knew the moment I pulled my 365SAQ off of the lot that it was much heavier than my '11 355QBQ that I towed onto the lot. That being said, this rig has the best floor plan around(as I have said many times), I just wish it had come from the factory like all of the other units of this size, with 7k axles. I would even suggest to the factory, that when ordering the units and options are added, that once they reach a certain weight of options, they go ahead and require you to get the 7k axles on the rig. I am totally happy with the way it pulls now. Not bad before, just kind of 'lumbering'. She now is much better and I absolutely love this rig! Good luck.

[golfmedik]

Originally Posted by golfmedik

I cut an I-beam and used two $14 receivers from Harbor Freight to make the base.



The rack I bought from Discountramps.com. It is a fold down 3 bike, platform carrier $149 with free shipping. Absolutely love the bikes there where I can watch them.

Here is a pic again, not sure why it isn't showing anymore in the first pic

[Herk7769]

Originally Posted by golfmedik

Here is a pic again, not sure why it isn't showing anymore in the first pic

Looks like your photobucket account is not showing them either.

[SwensonBarrettBunch]

I have run across this forum and wanted to share my experience. I have a 2012 Sierra 365SAQ. I have the second air, washer dryer combo, and slide toppers. We purchased this rv not only for the layout, as we have 5 children, but also because of the large fresh water tank because we do a lot of dry camping. We even carry extra water for long outings.

My questions began when I realized the trailer did not want to stop. I have a Ford F350 with the factory brake controller. With it set on max brakes and manually activating them the trailer was giving very little stopping force. I did the research and found that 7000 pound axles have larger brakes. Then one day out of the blue I stopped and weighed the truck and trailer combo. Total weight was 23,500 lbs. The trailer axles alone weighed 12,500. I knew that my truck weighed around 8300 pounds, so I got a little concerned. This was also with no clothes or food in the rv ( family was meeting me at the campground ).

Moving on, I had the camper at a rv dealer getting some warranty work done and mentioned the axle weight. They in turn contacted FR. The initial reaction was that I had misunderstood the weight tickets. I had my truck weighed empty and we had another talk in wish we realized that the trailer weighed 15,380 pounds. The max weight is 14,000. Then FR wanted a empty weight from the dealer. I emptied the camper of all personal belongings and the dealer photographed the empty compartments. There was potable water on board though. Just as if we were going out camping minus our stuff. This time it weighed 14,600 pounds.

FR wants my trailer back to the factory to weigh it themselves and do the repair as needed. They are picking it up Monday morning for the trip to Indiana. I have been happy with the effort so far, but I don’t know what is going to happen. I will keep you all informed

[golfmedik]

Originally Posted by herk7769

Looks like your photobucket account is not showing them either.

I have had a round with PB after they went to their new site. Lots of people's links got screwed up. Just have to go back and try to re-link them if I can remember exactly which ones they were! Geez!

[chiro]

Swenson Barrett bunch
Does your 5 er have the rounded painted front? Or is it the front that golf medic has? Looks like we bought from the same dealer in gainsville ga. I have a 2013 365 and tow with a f250 and have no problems.

[ependydad]

Originally Posted by chiro

Swenson Barrett bunch
Does your 5 er have the rounded painted front? Or is it the front that golf medic has? Looks like we bought from the same dealer in gainsville ga. I have a 2013 365 and tow with a f250 and have no problems.

Have you ever ran across scales to check your weights? I'm surprised that you have enough payload capacity for it. I have a similar camper and ended up with a 3500/dually to carry mine.

[chiro]

Never weighed it. Just went off the speck weight. I put air bags on it.
Truck handles it well. My truck can handle 15,900 on bed.
It's a 2011 f250 diesel. Camper weights 11,500 dry, 14,500 wet I think.

No joke. I saw a guy at stone mountai towing a trailer like ours with a dodge 1500. Yes 1500.

[ependydad]

Yeah, you see some crazy things. Heck, my dad talked about some slide-in campers that I'd never consider for the truck he has!

[SwensonBarrettBunch]

Mine has the rounded painted front cap. My truck is a F350 SRW. It has a max combined weight of 24,500. I am well within that. I do not have air bags, but I do have the overload springs and rear anti-sway bar. It pulls great. I am amazed that I can run 70 and never come out of overdrive except on the toughest grades. I also run 80PSI in the rear tires.

[SwensonBarrettBunch]

Sorry,,,, I purchased mine in Ohio.

Chiro,,, I think golfmedic purchased his in Gainesville. You should PM him. It is nice to find fellow owners in the area. We will all have to get together when I get mine back from Indiana

[Beausdog]

I have scaled mine before loaded andI run with a f350 powerstroke SRW, was about 5k front axles, 6k on the rear axles, 11,800 on the 365 axles, and 22,800 gcw. Not bad since in rated for 6k front, 7k rear and 12k on the rig and 23,500 gcwr