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Old 04-01-2013, 07:50 PM   #1
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Question 50 amp service

Hi all

We have always owned a TT with 30 amp service.

We now will be picking up our 365saq this Saturday which is 50 amp.

If we stay at a park that has 30 amp only and use an adaptor, what will we not be able to run?

Any problems foreseen?

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The second Air Conditioner if you have one.
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Old 04-01-2013, 07:54 PM   #3
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You won't be able to run 2 AC's at the same time if you have them. Other than that, everything should work as it did on your 30 amp TT.
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Assuming you have the 30->50 adapter, it'll be just like you had with 30 amp, which (I hear) means no electric hot water heater at the same time as a heater or air-conditioner, or high wattage appliance like hair dryer or coffee pot.
For sure you can't run 2 air-conditioners.
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Thanks guys for the quick answers.
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Both microwaves. You can run one ac and one microwave at the same time. You can't run high draw appliances at the same time. You will have to manage your electricity use.
You can also buy from camping world an adapter that hooks a 20 amp and 30 amp outlet together for 50amps. It costs $80. I got one and took it back because the 20 amp side can't be on a gfi or it won't work. I wanted it for my ga state parks and they all have gfi.
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http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...tml#post337653

this post has a break down on what u can run on 30 amp. if this winds up taking u to the beginning, the usage info is on the next to last page...post #27.

basicly, 1 ac, frig, lights, tv, and maybe the microwave.

i have one of those adapters that allows u to plug into a 30amp and a 20 amp socket. the 30 goes to one leg and the 20 goes to the other.
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Assuming you have the 30->50 adapter, it'll be just like you had with 30 amp, which (I hear) means no electric hot water heater at the same time as a heater or air-conditioner, or high wattage appliance like hair dryer or coffee pot.
For sure you can't run 2 air-conditioners.
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i have one of those adapters that allows u to plug into a 30amp and a 20 amp socket. the 30 goes to one leg and the 20 goes to the other.
And then you probably wonder why the voltage is saging and your surge protector shots power off to your (or your neighbor's) rig. The park didn't design the electric system for 50 amps!
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You are limited to basically 30 amps total draw.

Here is a chart with estimated draws. (EDIT) I see Jim already posted this info while I was typing. Good Deal.

Your air conditioner use more amps when starting the compressor, than when running afterwards. You have to allow for these start-up amps. The amount of draw varies by brand/model, but you can use this to give you an idea.

Also your AC/ DC converter will vary depending on how much 12 volt stuff you have going.

When you’re plugged into an electrical source and you use DC appliances and accessories like fans, lights, pumps or the TV antenna booster you are drawing amps from the converter.

In Layman terms....Let’s say you plug your RV into a 30 amp electrical supply and you only use 120 volt appliances. You’re using available amps from the 30 amp electrical supply for whatever 120 volt appliances are running, but the converter is drawing almost 0 amps because you’re not using hardly any DC accessories. It will use a small amount for items like the LP gas leak detector, clocks or maybe an aisle light, but not enough to really affect the amperage you are plugged into.

Your RV converter is rated for a certain amperage i.e. 30 amps, 45 amps, 55 amps. In other words a 45 amp converter is capable of running 45 amps worth of 12 volt appliances in the RV. When your RV converter is working at its maximum capacity, which in this case is producing 45 amps for 12 volt appliances and accessories, it is drawing a full 8 amps AC out of the 30 amps available from the campground electrical supply. So you may need to account for how much 12 volt/DC stuff you have going on at the same time, which affects how many AC amps your converter is drawing.

120 Volt AC Amp Ratings

Appliance or Electronic Equipment Estimated Amps

Air Conditioner (X number of A/C) 12-16 Amps

Blender 5-6 Amps
Coffee Maker 5-8 Amps
Compact Disc Player 1 Amp
Computer (Laptop) 2-3 Amps
Converter 1-8 Amps
Crock Pot 1-2 Amps
Drill 2-6 Amps
Electric Blanket 0.5-1.5 Amps
Electric Fan 1 Amp
Electric Water Heater 9-13 Amps
Electric Skillet 6-12 Amps
Hair Dryer 5-12 Amps
Iron 5-10 Amps
Light (60 watt % 120V) <1 Amp
Microwave 8-13 Amps
Microwave (Convection Oven) 13 Amps
Refrigerator in AC mode 5-8 Amps
Space Heater 8-13 Amps
Television 1.5-4 Amps
Toaster 7-10 Amps
Vacuum (handheld) 2-6 Amps
VCR 1-2 Amps
Washer/Dryer 14-16Amps
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And then you probably wonder why the voltage is saging and your surge protector shots power off to your (or your neighbor's) rig. The park didn't design the electric system for 50 amps!
so far, the only real issue with it has been figuring what i can run on the 20A side. haven't used it very much. i'm fairly well balanced so it isn't the advantage i thought it would be.
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