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Old 04-14-2013, 04:41 PM   #1
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My last camper was a 1995 29' prowler bumper pull so this is quite a upgrade. I've always had gooseneck trailers but this is my first 5th wheel. I have the B&W with Companion.

I went and picked this up from RV Wholesalers in Ohio which was 1800 miles from my home. So my 1st night coming home I park at the truckstop and realize I can't turn on the furnace because I can't put out the slides so no heat. The other thing I notice is I can't find the kitchen light switch for the 12volt lights, why isn't there one by the door? Really it's in the command center cabinet? Seriously? So I guess I will be adding a switch to the cabinet for the command center so you find it in the dark.

The 2nd night I parked at Walmart so I could have heat. I turned on the heat and it was barley blowing and was not warming the unit. So I turned on all 3 stove burners and got it up to 60. The furnace was not able to maintain that and it ran non stop for 8 hrs. I can't believe there is only one vent per room, especially the living room it is huge. When I got home and plugged it in and the fan was blowing much harder so I think the 1 battery that came with it was not up to the task. To be fair is was 18 degrees in Spearfish.

Other than these issues I love the camper, I have noticed there are no 12 volt plugs anywhere. I will have to add a couple to the entertainment center for device charging. Does anyone know if the 12 volt lights in the living room and bedroom are led? I tried pulling one out in the bedroom but it felt like I was going to break it. I'm going to have to add a inverter and 4 6volt batteries to operate everything , we mainly dry camp. I was pleasantly surprised by the Fall package that had the memory foam King sized bed. The upgraded hitch was great although I have nothing to judge it against. The hydraulic jacks work great although I can't add the stabilizers to them. Does everyone recommend adding legs to the lower flip up bunk?

This thing was a dream to pull even though it is 13' tall. I mainly drove 65-70 and avg 8mpg's with a pretty steady 15-20 mph head wind. High was 9.7 and low was 6.9 man am I sick of the wind!! This thing looks huge next to my house. I can't wait to get out and start camping.
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Old 04-14-2013, 04:49 PM   #2
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Congrats on your 2013 365 SAQ. A word of caution and safety, NEVER use your gas cooktop as a souce of heat. Last thing we want is to lose a FROG member . You might want to take off the heat registers and use a mirror and flashlight to try to see if there is anything blocking the heat vents.
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I know it's not approved but I was desperate. I only left them on for about an hour.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:10 PM   #4
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Ruf the battery thing is a major set back, if you plug in while operating anything 12volt you can here what I think is a huge bump in power once the invert-er kicks in. This I know is normal but with one battery and a smaller one at that, the difference in power is huge compared to all my old dual battery units. Second climb into your basement from the passenger side and remove the carpeted panel from the back of the water control panel. That's where the furnace is located all the feeds are 4 inch silver dryer vent hose and they do a totally crappy job installing them from the factory. I had to drastically shorten all of mine the worst one I cut out almost 4'of kinked twisted hose the 2 others a good 2 feet and the 4th maybe 18 inches but it helped with flow a lot and cleaned up the inside of that service area a bunch. And yes that damn kitchen switch is just plain ridiculous inside a glass door-ed control panel. Dont have one too many and stumble you'll cut your arm off falling into the cabinet trying to turn the lights on. (kidding) Its a damn shame though we are having a ton of little B/S problems with ours and our dealer !!!!SUCKS!!!! but as many on here have said this floor plan is awesome. If Forest River just spent a few more mins on quality control they would seriously have the market cornered with this unit. Did you get the 6k or 7k axles on your unit?

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Old 04-14-2013, 09:21 PM   #5
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Mine has the 6k axles. Here is the weight slip of it empty except for the full lpg tanks. I will look into the routing of dryer hose. I already have those panels removed and i'm impressed with the room under there. It will be easy to add the 12volt outlets.

This floor plan is awesome I'm willing to do some work fixing things because I hope to have this along time. Is the front floor where the batteries sit strong enough for a 150lb generator? Or do they reinforce it with the gen prep package?
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:43 PM   #6
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This!
Also you can partialy block the shorter runs to force more air down the longer runs. I think this is a problem with ALL new units.
Hope all goes well and Congrats!

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Ruf the battery thing is a major set back, if you plug in while operating anything 12volt you can here what I think is a huge bump in power once the invert-er kicks in. This I know is normal but with one battery and a smaller one at that, the difference in power is huge compared to all my old dual battery units. Second climb into your basement from the passenger side and remove the carpeted panel from the back of the water control panel. That's where the furnace is located all the feeds are 4 inch silver dryer vent hose and they do a totally crappy job installing them from the factory. I had to drastically shorten all of mine the worst one I cut out almost 4'of kinked twisted hose the 2 others a good 2 feet and the 4th maybe 18 inches but it helped with flow a lot and cleaned up the inside of that service area a bunch. And yes that damn kitchen switch is just plain ridiculous inside a glass door-ed control panel. Dont have one too many and stumble you'll cut your arm off falling into the cabinet trying to turn the lights on. (kidding) Its a damn shame though we are having a ton of little B/S problems with ours and our dealer !!!!SUCKS!!!! but as many on here have said this floor plan is awesome. If Forest River just spent a few more mins on quality control they would seriously have the market cornered with this unit. Did you get the 6k or 7k axles on your unit?

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Mine has the 6k axles. Here is the weight slip of it empty except for the full lpg tanks. I will look into the routing of dryer hose. I already have those panels removed and i'm impressed with the room under there. It will be easy to add the 12volt outlets.

This floor plan is awesome I'm willing to do some work fixing things because I hope to have this along time. Is the front floor where the batteries sit strong enough for a 150lb generator? Or do they reinforce it with the gen prep package?
Rufinit,
So this is your actual dry weight? I'm looking at the same camper and we have a deposit down on it but I'm kind of nervous about the weight, length, and height lol. That weight makes me feel a lot better. What are you pulling with?
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:53 PM   #8
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This was totally dry with a full tank of diesel and just me. I have a 2006 dodge mega cab 5.9. I'm over the gvw but inline with chrysler axle ratings. I do have air bags. I was running 30lbs in the airbags in that photo I will try 40lbs and see if I get a little weight moved forward. This thing tows very nicely.
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:12 PM   #9
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I know the brochure says dry weight of 12,800 and honestly that has me a little nervous. I'l be towing with a 2006 F350 SRW. Ive already checked on airbags for just for some added peace of mind. The truck will not be overweight its just that I dont want to be that close to my max. We never dry camp so I will only be carrying minimum water in the fresh tank for a emergency roadside stop. I just like your weight pics a lot more than the numbers they put out. Thats really the only thing that has been holding me back.
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:15 PM   #10
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My dry weight was 12638 according to the sticker which was pretty close. I would definitely upgrade to the 7k axles.
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