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Old 04-22-2013, 09:42 AM   #21
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Drool that is all lol
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:31 AM   #22
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Ok group, if you could do it all over again...what truck would you recommend to pull the saq. We are really trying not to move into a long bed. Open for suggestions...i am getting feedback that the f250 somewhat stuggled on long trips and other fifth wheel owners say no problem...

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Here my take and it differs from many. For me, I'm not willing to exceed any of the ratings on my truck- they're not labeled "recommendations", they're called ratings and my owners manual specific days to not exceed them.

Most times, with a 3/4-ton truck (250/2500s), you have to exceed the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) to tow a 40' camper (even one as pin light as these dual-slide rear bunkhouse models are). Given that you're pulling a family RV - it usually means that you have 1, 2 or more kids in addition to you and your spouse. That means, you're already loading the truck with a fair amount of people and people-stuff weight. I was really surprised when I weighed and found that my people, our stuff, hitch and truck add-ons all weighed about 1,200 pounds. Add in the 2,300 pound pin weight and suddenly I'm about 800 pounds from my GVWR. That was with some fresh water in the tank, but no propane (apparently- sigh) and no firewood in the truck bed. Pretty surprising when my payload capacity was over 4,000 pounds.

The people pulling with 250s make the justification that as long as they are within the rear axle rating, that's good enough for them. And- maybe it is, but again- not how I look at the world.

When I started looking at 40' units, I knew I was in 1-ton territory and would only consider a dually for safety.
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Old 04-22-2013, 04:19 PM   #23
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Gaucoin1 you would have been better off asking democrat or republican. Ill give u MY "opinion" only! The only real difference in 3/4 to 1 ton Ford Dodge or Chevy is the rear suspension or more specifically the addition of overload springs and with that said a 3/4 ton can be ordered with overloads from the factory. As far as the drive train motor,trans, rear axle all the same. Anyway IMHO the real safety bonus comes in the step up to a dually simply from a rear tire failure stand point. The whole stability thing I feel is there, but is truly minimal compared to the security of another set of tires on the ground. Just do the math the camper empty weighs 12800 lbs so loaded your well over 13000 lbs hooked to a 9000 lb truck. The trailer has a 2 ton weight advantage for selecting the path of travel or trajectory in a blow out scenario. With a single rear wheel vehicle a rear truck tire blow out at highway speed IMHO is going to be a harrowing experience at best. So for the added safety and emergency control of only 2 additional tire plus the additional weight carrying capacity and added stability I feel it's a no brainer for a unit of the SAQ's size. Also I'm one of the people who also like short bed trucks so I tow with a Dodge mega cab short bed dually with a slider (pull rite).

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Good reasoning there Marc! Exactly why I chose a dually. By the way, seriously dude, you have no idea what kind of money your truck would've brought to some of the southern guys!!!! Man that is a good looking truck!!
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This has merit, but a blowout on a front tire, and it wouldn't matter what you were driving. Having driven hundreds of thousands(millions) of miles, I've never had a blowout on a truck tire. If planning on the improbable, why not carry 2 spares?
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This has merit, but a blowout on a front tire, and it wouldn't matter what you were driving. Having driven hundreds of thousands(millions) of miles, I've never had a blowout on a truck tire. If planning on the improbable, why not carry 2 spares?
With my dually, I carry 3 all the time
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With my dually, I carry 3 all the time
Now that's planning ahead. Curious, has there ever been a time that you've needed that many? And are these all for your TV or combination of both?
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No. The old joke that every dually has 3 spares.... One on each side and one underneath. However, if I do travel more than an hour from home, I do carry two spares fro my 5er. One on the bumper and one in the bed of the truck. I've seen several that when one goes, the other separates and even with a spare has to be limped to a tire store. So on long trips I carry an extra fro the camper.
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I live in texas so that takes care of the demo repub debate. Thanks for all the input. I hate to move into a 350 but it sounds like that is what i need to do.

What about the washer dryer...is there social modifications if the washer dryer unit is not a combo?
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My understanding on the washer dryer is that they build them for separate units from the factory with the washer on the right side of the closet and the dryer on the left side of the closet.
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:30 PM   #30
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Once you live through it once you don't want to do it a second time. Thank God we didn't have a trailer in tow. This was us on the Ohio turnpike about a mile west of Toledo. Not fun. Whether the wheels come off or the china bomb tires blow out no thanks.

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