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Old 12-23-2013, 10:58 PM   #41
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Sounds like making a bed saver might be a fun off season weekend project.
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Old 12-24-2013, 12:14 AM   #42
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So is the general consensus to go with Butch's latch vs the blue ox bedsaver? Butch's is about $80 shipped. The blue ox is close to $240.

There isn't a consensus - it depends on the level of protection you want. Fully automatic is the blue ox - it doesn't need to be engaged to catch the pin. The Butch's kit is a fraction of the price but needs to be engaged (it's obvious when it isn't engaged).

Neither is "better" per say - just 2 different approaches to the same problem.
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Old 12-25-2013, 05:17 PM   #43
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We have Progressive - wouldn't change for the world! They were at our site within 24 hrs of our call. Yep, the tug test is important. But that makes me a bit apprehensive. I calm down when I know we've done it correctly. Nobody asked about this, but when I tow, I never exceed the caution speeds posted on curves!
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Old 12-25-2013, 05:37 PM   #44
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We have Progressive - wouldn't change for the world! They were at our site within 24 hrs of our call. Yep, the tug test is important. But that makes me a bit apprehensive. I calm down when I know we've done it correctly. Nobody asked about this, but when I tow, I never exceed the caution speeds posted on curves!
Why would you be apprehensive, just raise the jacks about 1/16" off the ground. Do you have either of the mentioned bed savers?
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Kind of depends what kind of surface you may be on, if on soft dirt, then 1/2 inch's in acceptable, on concrete or hard ground, 1" would work better, then again, if you have a safety lock, you really do not need to worry about either condition: So far we have had no problems since installing the Butch's Safety Pin Device:


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...we did try to pull forward with the front legs still extended about 2" off the ground, they caught the 5'er and did not damage.../QUOTE]

IMO, 2" is too much to raise the legs to do a pull test. You are subjecting the jacks to a 1000#-2000# shock load they are not designed to take in case the trailer is dropped. Just raise them enough to clear the ground.
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Kind of depends what kind of surface you may be on, if on soft dirt, then 1/2 inch's in acceptable, on concrete or hard ground, 1" would work better, then again, if you have a safety lock, you really do not need to worry about either condition: So far we have had no problems since installing the Butch's Safety Pin Device
Regardless of the surface, I just raise the jacks enough to just clear the surface. The jacks are not designed for shock loads. I agree with the premise that with a safety lock like Butch's prevents the possibility of dropping on the truck bed or the jacks.
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I find it odd that of the 3 experiences of dropped trailers mentioned here are all using the same hitch, Husky. I check my hitch a couple of times as I do my loading. It's either engaged or it isn't. As for a bedsaver, I don't feel I need it, especially one that I have to manually install. If I'm going to that trouble, I'm going to the trouble of making sure I'm hitched properly. As for the raising hydraulic gear for a pull test, raise them until the lowest one is just barely off the ground, then lower the gear. The high one will lower first and you can stop it at the same point as the other, just off the ground.
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I find it odd that of the 3 experiences of dropped trailers mentioned here are all using the same hitch, Husky. I check my hitch a couple of times as I do my loading. It's either engaged or it isn't. As for a bedsaver, I don't feel I need it, especially one that I have to manually install. If I'm going to that trouble, I'm going to the trouble of making sure I'm hitched properly. As for the raising hydraulic gear for a pull test, raise them until the lowest one is just barely off the ground, then lower the gear. The high one will lower first and you can stop it at the same point as the other, just off the ground.
I agree it is strange that it has been 3 Husky hitches. My handle dropped down and my pop out 1'2" rod popped out showing it was closed. I looked at the locking part, If your pin the bottom hits the plate even if you are above the jaws it closes. I now due the pull test twice with the legs just off the ground enough to move the unit and clear the ground only. And painted the lock plate bright Yellow so I can see the bar closed and pin is behind it, couldn't tell before all looked the same, Now I can see the bar and the pin easily.
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That is why I have a Safety Pin on my hitch plate. With the Husky suspect of not locking in correctly, who is to say it want come loose while under being towed. With the Butch Safety Pin installed, feel as though I am well protected, just in case it happeens to come loose, just saying!



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I agree it is strange that it has been 3 Husky hitches. My handle dropped down and my pop out 1'2" rod popped out showing it was closed. I looked at the locking part, If your pin the bottom hits the plate even if you are above the jaws it closes. I now due the pull test twice with the legs just off the ground enough to move the unit and clear the ground only. And painted the lock plate bright Yellow so I can see the bar closed and pin is behind it, couldn't tell before all looked the same, Now I can see the bar and the pin easily.
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That is why I have a Safety Pin on my hitch plate. With the Husky suspect of not locking in correctly, who is to say it want come loose while under being towed. With the Butch Safety Pin installed, feel as though I am well protected, just in case it happeens to come loose, just saying!
I understand what you are saying, Mine was just a rookie mistake, Once you learn you realize what to do. For sure I know it will not happen when in tow. For one it is impossible to open the jaws when the pressure of the pin is against it. I read here on this forum about some smart A-- pulled his arm open while he eating in a restaurant. I think it was a Reese hitch. You will not open a Husky that way. I have to relieve all pressure off the latch before it will open and the only way to do that block your wheels and back up to move the pin forward. My check list just keeps growing. Never had another problem with it since. I guess you can call it learning curve. Now if I can just remember to lower my TV antenna.....
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