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Old 03-12-2013, 03:21 AM   #1
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My wife and I recently just ordered our 365SAQ and really look forward to this year camping. The kids came with us to RV show after RV show this winter and we all agreed on our favorite. They have no knowledge of the new fifth wheel on the way and am sure they will be surprised. The kids loved all the room in the back bunk area and all the storage the 365 offered. Some of the new options on the 2014 are led lighting inside the coach and a led rope light along the awning. The outside kitchen, king bed, corian counters with extension, party couch, R38 insulation, wood refers, 5 function Liepert remote are some of the addons we added. The signature package and managed to get the fall option package included as well. This is our second FR in 2 years and quite an upgrade from our 2012 Puma 31KBH. We all had so much fun and memories in our first year of camping and know year 2 will be nothing but better! I remember all the times, as if yesterday, when my parents took me and my brothers out. This is what I want for my kids the memories and the different places we camped at as a family.

I would like to ask what to expect pulling a fifth wheel over the trailer tow as well as what kind of fifth wheel hitch I should be looking at? Thanks.
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Old 03-12-2013, 04:54 AM   #2
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My wife and I recently just ordered our 365SAQ and really look forward to this year camping. The kids came with us to RV show after RV show this winter and we all agreed on our favorite. They have no knowledge of the new fifth wheel on the way and am sure they will be surprised. The kids loved all the room in the back bunk area and all the storage the 365 offered. Some of the new options on the 2014 are led lighting inside the coach and a led rope light along the awning. The outside kitchen, king bed, corian counters with extension, party couch, R38 insulation, wood refers, 5 function Liepert remote are some of the addons we added. The signature package and managed to get the fall option package included as well. This is our second FR in 2 years and quite an upgrade from our 2012 Puma 31KBH. We all had so much fun and memories in our first year of camping and know year 2 will be nothing but better! I remember all the times, as if yesterday, when my parents took me and my brothers out. This is what I want for my kids the memories and the different places we camped at as a family.

I would like to ask what to expect pulling a fifth wheel over the trailer tow as well as what kind of fifth wheel hitch I should be looking at? Thanks.
First off, congratulations on the 365! Nothing else comes close as a usable floor plan for those of us with kids. My advice, call the dealer you ordered it from and have 7k axles put under it when it is built. This rig comes with 6k axles and they are not enough to support the weight of the 365. With all of the options, you will need them. It's only a $700 option I believe. And don't let anyone talk you out of it. Make them order it that way. The way you can tell, is the 7k axles have 8 lug wheels. In case you haven't sen it, read this thread from its sister rig 365saq weight ?. They are the same rig, just different colors. Do yourself a favor and read the entire thread. It will not take that long. You have enough truck to pull it. Again, not trying to discourage you by no means. but you will be much better off with that option. It will pull much better and won't have problems down the road. Again, this is an amazing rig! Others have copied this design, but none are EXACTLY like it.
You will love pulling a 5er over a a TT. Much more stable and no sway. As far as hitches, does your truck have the factory in bed hitch prep kit? If it does, B&W makes a great hitch for the factory mount. If it doesn't, I would recommend the B&W Turnover ball under bed hitch in conjunction with the Companion hitchhttp://www.turnoverball.com/products/rvhitch. Nothing else like it on the market. In my opinion, the best hitches made, PLUS, they are 100% made in the USA. Also, either one of these hitches leaves a completely flat bed when removed! Happy camping!
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:01 AM   #3
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My wife and I recently just ordered our 365SAQ and really look forward to this year camping. The kids came with us to RV show after RV show this winter and we all agreed on our favorite. They have no knowledge of the new fifth wheel on the way and am sure they will be surprised. The kids loved all the room in the back bunk area and all the storage the 365 offered. Some of the new options on the 2014 are led lighting inside the coach and a led rope light along the awning. The outside kitchen, king bed, corian counters with extension, party couch, R38 insulation, wood refers, 5 function Liepert remote are some of the addons we added. The signature package and managed to get the fall option package included as well. This is our second FR in 2 years and quite an upgrade from our 2012 Puma 31KBH. We all had so much fun and memories in our first year of camping and know year 2 will be nothing but better! I remember all the times, as if yesterday, when my parents took me and my brothers out. This is what I want for my kids the memories and the different places we camped at as a family.

I would like to ask what to expect pulling a fifth wheel over the trailer tow as well as what kind of fifth wheel hitch I should be looking at? Thanks.
Congratulations on the new 365saq! As you can see, I have the same. Make sure it has the 7000lb axles under it!!! They've made a few improvements to them since my 2012, and they keep getting better. I'm sure your family will enjoy it as much as mine. As for hitch, I went with a Curt 20K, I have a long bed and don't need a slider, although most 5th wheels say you can pull with short bed without on, most of the forum members reccommend having one just in case. As it stands now, I would stay away from Reese, not because it's a bad product, but because of their current bussiness practices.
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:45 AM   #4
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Congrats on putting in your order for your 2014 S ierra 365SAQ. You tricked it out pretty good. Keep building those those memories that will last a lifetime.
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:17 AM   #5
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I have a 2013 sandpiper and love it. I have the 2011 f 250 also. you will need to put a set of air bags on it. If not you will be ridding on your bumpstops when you hit a bump. Once you do that the truck pulls it like a dream. Enjoy we used ours over 60 days last year and loved every minute. Ill post some mods when I get a few minutes.
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:45 AM   #6
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I'm another huge fan boy for the B&W hitch products. Other than maybe ending up with a air-ride hitch, I don't ever see me changing.
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Old 03-13-2013, 08:24 PM   #7
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Congratulations on the new 365saq! As you can see, I have the same. Make sure it has the 7000lb axles under it!!! They've made a few improvements to them since my 2012, and they keep getting better. I'm sure your family will enjoy it as much as mine. As for hitch, I went with a Curt 20K, I have a long bed and don't need a slider, although most 5th wheels say you can pull with short bed without on, most of the forum members reccommend having one just in case. As it stands now, I would stay away from Reese, not because it's a bad product, but because of their current bussiness practices.
Congrats on your purchase, we love our 365 and would love to see some pics of your 14 when u get it. As golf and those stated above, I will second all their recommendations and advice. As far as hitch, I have a shortbed and use a Reese 16k slider (although I have never actually needed to use the slider yet) but tows beautifully.
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Old 03-13-2013, 09:20 PM   #8
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Congrats. I have a 13 365. We bought it in august last summer and put 2000 miles on it. it tows great. I use a 16K reese slider(only used the slider once) We have very poor roads up here in Maine so the chucking and bounce was bad. This winter I bought a Reese 5Th airborne pin box and just installed it last weekend. It is night and day. Most of the time you don't even know the trailer is back there. Good luck
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:15 AM   #9
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Thank you for all the comments. I joined this site last year and have been reading and studying this forum at length before we bought the 365. I spend almost 4 hours with the rep when the RV show started with some of my concerns. One particular was the one golf talked about with the 7000# axles. I did indeed read your posts many times. I relayed this to the Sierra rep and directed him to this forum about the underrated axles on the size of this unit and of my safety concerns for my family. He told me that he has no idea of this situation and this was the first he heard of it. He did say he would call from the RV show to the engineers and get an answer for me. I met him again the next day and he said that after talking to some engineer that the upgrade to the axles is not needed. He went on to say that if I did feel it was a safety issue that for $500 they would put the axles on for me. He also said that if the 6000# axles were a safety issue/liability that FR would have put them on the 2014 which they did not. I am split on my decision whether or not I should call and get this added or not?

As for the hitch concern the rep and the sales person told me that I would not need a slider hitch because of the beveled front cap. I told them that I did not want to pop a window and was told it would not come close.I am not sure of this and would hope some of you can set me straight on this. I see beausdog uses a slider but said he never had to utilize it yet. How close can you get to 90 degrees or can you? I should also mention that this rep was very knowledgeable and has been in the industry a very long time.
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Thank you for all the comments. I joined this site last year and have been reading and studying this forum at length before we bought the 365. I spend almost 4 hours with the rep when the RV show started with some of my concerns. One particular was the one golf talked about with the 7000# axles. I did indeed read your posts many times. I relayed this to the Sierra rep and directed him to this forum about the underrated axles on the size of this unit and of my safety concerns for my family. He told me that he has no idea of this situation and this was the first he heard of it. He did say he would call from the RV show to the engineers and get an answer for me. I met him again the next day and he said that after talking to some engineer that the upgrade to the axles is not needed. He went on to say that if I did feel it was a safety issue that for $500 they would put the axles on for me. He also said that if the 6000# axles were a safety issue/liability that FR would have put them on the 2014 which they did not. I am split on my decision whether or not I should call and get this added or not?

As for the hitch concern the rep and the sales person told me that I would not need a slider hitch because of the beveled front cap. I told them that I did not want to pop a window and was told it would not come close.I am not sure of this and would hope some of you can set me straight on this. I see beausdog uses a slider but said he never had to utilize it yet. How close can you get to 90 degrees or can you? I should also mention that this rep was very knowledgeable and has been in the industry a very long time.
It's true, the 6000# axles are sufficient if you're not going to load up your camper, but as several have found out, that after adding accessories, their payload was only a couple hundred pounds. NOT enough. I don't have a washer dryer, generator, multiple batteries or heavy items. I feel I'm on the safe side with a dry weight of 12,600, but I would spend the extra money for the 7k axles regardless.
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