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Old 07-25-2014, 11:09 PM   #41
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I was having a tire repaired today and while they were doing it I noticed that the I beam where the middle hanger attaches to the frame is bent up . It is the outside edge of the I beam. I t is where they put a 45 piece steel support. All the rest are fine. The axles are fine. They are still bowed up as they should be. Any thoughts??? Suggestions?? Tires wear even and track well. I looked and it doesn't look like the weld broke.

2013 365 SAQ is what I have.
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Old 07-26-2014, 07:01 AM   #42
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Don't think this is an issue. Most likely done during manufacturing of the frame itself.
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Old 07-27-2014, 11:03 AM   #43
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Hi everyone. Mine were authorized to be changed either at my dealer or at the factory with no fighting with them at all. I was shocked too. I did have to bring it myself though. I emailed and followed with a call and dealt with Wayne. Initially it was like he pretended not to know what I was talking about. I told him I knew it was not the first time he had dealt with this, read my email and get back to me. Within 5 minutes(shocking), he called me back and said his supervisor told him to authorize the work. I asked him what they seen in the numbers I presented that made them go ahead and change them. He said they didn't even look. They shipped the parts to my dealer and I arranged a day for the work. It did cost me the 400 miles round trip tow. Better than 1600 to Indiana. It seemed to me that they were just doing it on a case by case basis that was cheaper than a recall. Mine is a 2013. We had it just over a year when I contacted them and had the work done in February of this year. I say persevere. Unless they have change their views on it I think they will do it. Like suggested. Print a ton of pages from this forum and send them
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Old 07-30-2014, 11:20 AM   #44
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I am done, going to protect my family and others on the road by handling the safety issue myself.


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Old 07-31-2014, 11:12 PM   #45
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Ok guys

Forest river gave me the contact info for lippert since the manufacture the chassis frame. Called/emailed/sent pictures to lippert. They requested more pictures of the springs on each side and the axles with the tags on them. They want to look at the springs to see if they are bent. I looked at the springs tonight and the springs are completely flat with no bow at all on the passenger side. The side that has the outside kitchen and inside kitchen
On. The other side aka drivers side look pretty good. The drivers side is the side with the I beam bent on the middle hanger.
Any thoughts would be nice.
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Old 08-01-2014, 11:12 AM   #46
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I suggest you take lots of pics on this. Document well. Take pics of your axle tags(in center of axles, usually on the back), you VIN number and yhour weight stickers on the side of the camper and inside the main entry door jam. You may get Lippert or Dexter to say "yes" there is something wrong with the springs, but my guess is that they will tell you this is your problem or a Forest River problem. And by this, just shooting from the hip here, but I'd say they are going to tell you it is a weight problem. Springs will eventually get tired, but not in just a few years. Chiro, IIRC you have 6k axles correct? Before my axles were changed, I too noted that the springs did not have hardly any arch to them. The 7k springs which have been under there now over a year, still have plenty of arch to them. Like I've said before, the camper now sits higher and rides better. Again, document very well, take and save pics, and send them what they ask for. If they tell you it is a weight problem, it's just more of a sign that lots of us have been right all along. That these units are too heavy with those 6k axles. Plus puts the ball back in FRs court. And then you have more "ammo" to go after them with. Just my opinion of course in relation to the springs and axles. The bent section on the frame that is near the hangar for the springs, I agree was probably done during the manufacturing process, and should not be an issue unless it is twisting the spring or eyelet of the spring. Take good photos.
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Old 08-01-2014, 07:27 PM   #47
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I'm not certain, but I think the problem mostly lies with the models that didn't have the 7k axles as an option. I'm not sure what the option costs, but for those who don't travel and mostly use theirs at a permanent site, the 7k axles may be just an added cost that isn't utilized. To look back and say "I wish I would of", is not really the fault of the factory. I have 6k axles on my rig, I travel extensively, I have a large family, and I'm just under the gvwr. No, I don't travel with water, I don't have a washer/dryer, and I don't have a built in generator. The 7k axles may of added a bit of "peace of mind", but I feel the 6k axles I have now are sufficient for what I do. This is not to say I wouldn't of opted for the 7k axles if they were available when I bought mine. The fact that the factory offers the 2 axles on this particular model, enables them to market to 2 different groups, 3/4 & 1 ton trucks. The factory has stepped up on several instances, here on the forum, and elsewhere I'm sure. They've offered a solution, it just wasn't what was wanted. I do hope the situation is resolved to the satisfaction of both parties, but to get legal council involved would be a complete waste of time and money.

Just to answer your first line statement,mine was available to have the 7k axles as an option when it was ordered by my dealer but it wasnt.I had forest river change mine after the fact ..Have you actually weighed yourself when loaded with food and everything needed for your large family?There is not much weight left from what the unit weighs dry and what you put in it.Adds up quickly and the axle rating should assume you will travel with water and clothes ect for 11 people that it sleeps.Non the less they should have 7k axles on them .If you drove the two side by side yourself you would be surprised how much better the handling is on 7k axles.I had no issues at all asking for them.What boggles my mind is how different the requirements are on an individual basis.I was able to have my axles replaced by whoever I wanted.


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Old 08-01-2014, 08:02 PM   #48
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I talked to fr engineering this morning and the engineer told me that they use 20% of the overall weight of the the dry weight for the pin wt. so rv weighs 12880 dry 2550 pin weight. 12880- 2550 10330 is the wt on the axles. That's what the engineer told me. So the axles are more than adequate to carry the load. I don't believe them. I am taking my rv to the dealer on the way home to have a few things done. One of them is to have new 7k axles put on. At my expense as of right now
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Old 08-01-2014, 10:41 PM   #49
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Chiro, go read the thread of "365saq weight" here. 365saq weight ?
Post #64...
Notice the law change in 2008..do a Google search on it and do some reading...you will see they can't weigh them like that anymore!
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Old 08-02-2014, 05:32 PM   #50
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For those of you that have had their axles replaced. Did they put the all pk back on and what brand of tire and rim were used. Also did they use the same hangers or out new ones on?
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