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Old 10-18-2016, 09:23 PM   #1
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first 50 amp rig

Can you run both AC units on a 30 amp hookup if nothing else is on?

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Old 10-18-2016, 09:29 PM   #2
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I didn't think so. Figured the start up draw would pretty much kill the breaker for both units to run. Thought someone might have tried.

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Being an electrician, I need a better understanding of the problem. Your title says "First 50 amp rig" but you are asking about a 30 amp hookup If you're trying to run 2 A/C's in your 50 amp coach on a 30 amp hookup the probably won't run. Each one draws close to 20 amps each. Add in some low voltage like the park I stay in and you're done.
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Old 10-19-2016, 06:03 AM   #5
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I didn't think so. Figured the start up draw would pretty much kill the breaker for both units to run. Thought someone might have tried.

Thank you for the reply.
It wouldn't be really recommended to run both on a 30 amp power supply, for the reasons stated previously.

Just a little addendum in case you may not be aware, is that although you state nothing else is on (assuming you mean 120 volt AC items), there is one thing that often gets forgotten about, and that is the converters AC draw.

If the converter is recharging your battery, or depending on how many 12 volt DC items you are using...depends on how many 120 volt AC amps the converter is consuming. Remember that the converter is taking 120 volt AC and converting it to 12 volt DC.

The converter is often forgotten about, since you don't really see it....but it is using 120 volt AC amps.

This link may help too, for those reading this thread:

RV Converters and Amp Draw - RV Information (RV Maintenance)

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One more addendum, but you may already be aware of. A 50 amp outlet is powered by a 120/240 volt split phase service. What this means is that there are TWO 120 volt legs coming into your RV, with each leg at 50 amps. These means in reality you have a total of 100 amps to your RV, as opposed to a total of 30 amps when connected to 30 amp power outlets.

This 120/240 volt "split phase" service confuses a lot of campers too.

This link explains it better, and also explains the adapter you are using to connect a 50 amp RV to a 30 amp outlet.

Electrical Tutorial - Chapter 3 - 30 Amp versus 50 Amp

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I know I know, you are probably thinking "Dang wmtire, all I asked is if you can run two air conditioners, and nothing about an electrical course"
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Thank you all for your explanations. Much appreciated.

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Old 10-19-2016, 08:09 AM   #7
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Taking into consideration all that has been said so far, I had Sierra 365 5th wheel with 13.5k and 15k ACs. I was able to run both on a 30 amp service as long as the voltage was 115-120. I had a EMS and the total running amps with both ACs and anthing else that may have been on (minimal) was around 28. This wasn't just a one time thing, as my seasonal site was only a 30amp site. If the voltage dropped below the threshold, it would likely kick the breaker. These ACs were unaltered also.
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I know I know, you are probably thinking "Dang wmtire, all I asked is if you can run two air conditioners, and nothing about an electrical course"
Well, that's OK. We all learn a lot from replies like yours. It's much better to understand why something can or can't be done.

But, I will remember not to ask what time it is because you'll probably post seven paragraphs with four links describing how to build a watch. 😊
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But, I will remember not to ask what time it is because you'll probably post seven paragraphs with four links describing how to build a watch. 😊
LOL!!!! Now that is funny.... Thanks for the morning laugh
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Yes, you can. I've done it many times. Assuming you have one 13.5 and a 15. Run both fans on low, and make sure water heater and fridge are on gas. Keep in mind that you will be pulling in the 26-28 amp range, so any extra load can trip the breaker. For example, if the batteries aren't fully charged and the converter is attempting to charge them, you could trip the breaker. Or if you attempt to run non-LED lighting. Keep in mind that a short burst of over 30A load will not trip a 30A breaker, unless it's faulty. Also, as someone else mentioned, if voltage drops too low, amperage will increase over 30 and eventually trip the breaker as well.
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