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03-15-2018, 07:04 PM
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#661
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2007 WildCat 32QBBS
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NJ
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Originally Posted by btf66509
Hahaha I was actually thinking not 10 minutes before it blew about calling to order tires tomorrow!
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*Current: 2005 Ford F350 Crew Cab Dually 6.0 diesel 4x4*
*Retired: 1987 F350 Crew Cab Dually 6.9 turbo diesel
2007 Forest River WildCat 32QBBS
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03-16-2018, 05:29 PM
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#662
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
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Quite wintery here yet!! Just home from the dealer.
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2021 F350 Lariat 7.3 4X4 w 4.30s, 2018 Wildcat 29RLX
2012 BMW G650GS, Demco Premiere Slider
1969 John Deere 1020, 1940 Ford 9N, 1948 Ford 8N
Jonsered 535, Can of WD-40, Duct Tape
Red Green coffee mugs
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03-16-2018, 08:53 PM
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#663
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Lodi CA
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Originally Posted by acadianbob
Quite wintery here yet!! Just home from the dealer.
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Nice looking rig.
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2001 Ford F-350 DRW 7.3
2011 25 RL Wildcat
former fiver 1976 Fourwinds had for 35 years
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03-16-2018, 09:07 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
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Originally Posted by onetonford
Nice looking rig.
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Thanks man!
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2021 F350 Lariat 7.3 4X4 w 4.30s, 2018 Wildcat 29RLX
2012 BMW G650GS, Demco Premiere Slider
1969 John Deere 1020, 1940 Ford 9N, 1948 Ford 8N
Jonsered 535, Can of WD-40, Duct Tape
Red Green coffee mugs
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03-17-2018, 06:30 AM
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#665
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Western NY
Posts: 125
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Originally Posted by acadianbob
Quite wintery here yet!! Just home from the dealer.
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I have a 2017 F350 and a 2017 Wildcat 29RLX, so our setups are similar, so I was wondering how level your RV tows and how much your truck squats with the RV attached?
My truck squatted about 3" and my RV was towing about 3" nose high when I picked it up from the dealer in November. I can't lower it on the truck, since I'm already at minimum clearance between the trucks bed rails and the 5th wheel. Driving home from the dealer that night all oncoming traffic were flashing their headlights at me.
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RV: 2017 Wildcat 29RLX 5th Wheel
TV: 2017 F350 SuperDuty SCSB 6.7L PowerStroke
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03-17-2018, 08:12 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Originally Posted by Cujo7240
I have a 2017 F350 and a 2017 Wildcat 29RLX, so our setups are similar, so I was wondering how level your RV tows and how much your truck squats with the RV attached?
My truck squatted about 3" and my RV was towing about 3" nose high when I picked it up from the dealer in November. I can't lower it on the truck, since I'm already at minimum clearance between the trucks bed rails and the 5th wheel. Driving home from the dealer that night all oncoming traffic were flashing their headlights at me.
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Yes, I'd say that I'm 3" high on the nose also. My F250 would have to squat a bit more than your F350, but I don't think I squat 3". There might be some additional squat after we are loaded for travel. Truck without trailer has about 2 1/2 inches to the overloads. With trailer, I'm still 1/2 inch from the overloads. So, I'm guessing 2" squat. Also, measured about 2" squat at the top of the rear wheel well opening.
The truck is 60" at the top of my RetraxPro cover. Add 6" clearance, it would be 66" to the bottom of the 5er nose. Truck squats 2" so now 5er nose is at 64". Trailer sitting on level ground is 61" from ground to bottom of nose. So, by those calculations, I'm 3" high at the nose.
I'm not worried about that. Most 5ers are towing a bit nose high. With load, it may come down a bit more. The equalizer at the axles will easily handle the 3" nose high. I took mine to a scale. Both of my trailer axles had identical weight; so no worries there.
If it bothers you, it is relatively easy to drop the rear of your truck a couple of inches by putting a shorter block between the spring and rear axle. Many people of done this to level their 5ers. There are no adverse effects reported to the truck with this modification.
Here is a link to FTE that has pictures, part numbers, how to etc to show how to lower the rear end of your truck.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-rear-end.html
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2021 F350 Lariat 7.3 4X4 w 4.30s, 2018 Wildcat 29RLX
2012 BMW G650GS, Demco Premiere Slider
1969 John Deere 1020, 1940 Ford 9N, 1948 Ford 8N
Jonsered 535, Can of WD-40, Duct Tape
Red Green coffee mugs
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03-17-2018, 08:12 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: SouthWest Michigan
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03-17-2018, 08:23 AM
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#668
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Moderator Emeritus
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P.S.
Of course any truck squats with weight. So, I'm not surprised you got flashed towing at night. There is an additional issue likely with a Ford. All 4 lights work on "dims". So, with the squat and 4 lights, people think you have your brights on. You could always adjust your lights down a bit. But, then you would be low when you are unloaded.
I just don't tow at night; ever.
Good luck to you. Enjoy your new equipment!!
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2021 F350 Lariat 7.3 4X4 w 4.30s, 2018 Wildcat 29RLX
2012 BMW G650GS, Demco Premiere Slider
1969 John Deere 1020, 1940 Ford 9N, 1948 Ford 8N
Jonsered 535, Can of WD-40, Duct Tape
Red Green coffee mugs
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03-17-2018, 08:27 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
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Originally Posted by Wolverine 1945
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Isn't that the truth!! Tougher winter than usual this year. We had about 10 straight days with overnight lows around -24.
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2021 F350 Lariat 7.3 4X4 w 4.30s, 2018 Wildcat 29RLX
2012 BMW G650GS, Demco Premiere Slider
1969 John Deere 1020, 1940 Ford 9N, 1948 Ford 8N
Jonsered 535, Can of WD-40, Duct Tape
Red Green coffee mugs
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03-17-2018, 08:35 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: SouthWest Michigan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by acadianbob
Isn't that the truth!! Tougher winter than usual this year. We had about 10 straight days with overnight lows around -24.
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You can keep that !!!
We did not get hit quite that hard !!!
My wife was born & raised in Rochester !!!
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03-17-2018, 09:28 AM
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#671
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Phat Phrog Stunt Crew
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Upper Penisula Michigan / Arizona
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Ed & Ruthann / Toby and Tucker
2014 GMC Sierra Crewcab 2500 Duramax
2014 Wildcat 327ck
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03-17-2018, 10:02 AM
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#672
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Senior Member
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Location: SouthWest Michigan
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Originally Posted by elind
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That was our plan,,, but we never got around to it ???
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03-17-2018, 10:30 AM
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#673
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Site Team
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Grayson County, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by acadianbob
Quite wintery here yet!! Just home from the dealer.
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Nice set-up, Bob. Enjoy your Wildcat. We have ours at an Okie state park near Kingston, OK.
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2015 FR Wildcat 295RSX / GMC Sierra
Nights Camped: '13 = 49/'14 = 74/'15 = 74/'16 = 85/'17 = 110/'18 = 111/'19 = 86/'20 =108/'21 = 115/'22 = 135/'23 = 78; Booked for 2024 = 69
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03-17-2018, 12:53 PM
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03-17-2018, 01:25 PM
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#675
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
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What model is that Michael?
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2021 F350 Lariat 7.3 4X4 w 4.30s, 2018 Wildcat 29RLX
2012 BMW G650GS, Demco Premiere Slider
1969 John Deere 1020, 1940 Ford 9N, 1948 Ford 8N
Jonsered 535, Can of WD-40, Duct Tape
Red Green coffee mugs
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03-17-2018, 05:12 PM
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#676
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 73
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28sgx
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03-17-2018, 05:50 PM
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#677
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Western NY
Posts: 125
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Quote:
Originally Posted by acadianbob
Yes, I'd say that I'm 3" high on the nose also. My F250 would have to squat a bit more than your F350, but I don't think I squat 3". There might be some additional squat after we are loaded for travel. Truck without trailer has about 2 1/2 inches to the overloads. With trailer, I'm still 1/2 inch from the overloads. So, I'm guessing 2" squat. Also, measured about 2" squat at the top of the rear wheel well opening.
The truck is 60" at the top of my RetraxPro cover. Add 6" clearance, it would be 66" to the bottom of the 5er nose. Truck squats 2" so now 5er nose is at 64". Trailer sitting on level ground is 61" from ground to bottom of nose. So, by those calculations, I'm 3" high at the nose.
I'm not worried about that. Most 5ers are towing a bit nose high. With load, it may come down a bit more. The equalizer at the axles will easily handle the 3" nose high. I took mine to a scale. Both of my trailer axles had identical weight; so no worries there.
If it bothers you, it is relatively easy to drop the rear of your truck a couple of inches by putting a shorter block between the spring and rear axle. Many people of done this to level their 5ers. There are no adverse effects reported to the truck with this modification.
Here is a link to FTE that has pictures, part numbers, how to etc to show how to lower the rear end of your truck.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-rear-end.html
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Thanks for the detailed measurements! The only measurement I know for sure is the 3" nose high trailer measurement. I have only towed the RV obce so far and that was home from the dealer and I didn't measure exactly how much it made the truck squat, but I know it was a lot more than I thought it would.
Apparently Ford decided to soften the primary springs in their SuperDuties in 2017 to give them a more car-like ride. This kind of pissed me off, since for years U had owned 1/2-ton pickups and I was always playing games to keep the the truck from squatting when loaded by adding air bags or extra leaf springs and I thought I had gotten away from all that when I bought the F350!
I was wrong though and I just bought a Air Lift air bag system to deal with the squat issue. I also upgraded the 15" wheels and tires on the 5th wheel to 16" versions to help with the nose high trailer problem increase the load rating and ditch the China bombs for Goodyear Endurance tires.
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RV: 2017 Wildcat 29RLX 5th Wheel
TV: 2017 F350 SuperDuty SCSB 6.7L PowerStroke
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03-17-2018, 09:31 PM
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#678
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 2,539
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I added airless bag by aircel on my 350 sumo on my Tundra and Timbren to my eco boost they don’t touch truck until under a load takes the removing of original bump stop on bolt each install longer bolts Aircel had to assemble bracket but was cheapest less tha$200
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03-18-2018, 07:09 AM
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#679
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cujo7240
Apparently Ford decided to soften the primary springs in their Super Duties in 2017 to give them a more car-like ride.
I also upgraded the 15" wheels and tires on the 5th wheel to 16" versions to help with the nose high trailer problem increase the load rating and ditch the China bombs for Goodyear Endurance tires.
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Yes, I believe there is more spring compliance in the first inch or two of travel on the newer model years.
When we were looking at the 29RLX, the dealer had 3 of them. Two had 15" tires and one had 16". Apparently, it was a running change during the 2018 model year. We bought the one with 16" tires for the reason you mention.
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2021 F350 Lariat 7.3 4X4 w 4.30s, 2018 Wildcat 29RLX
2012 BMW G650GS, Demco Premiere Slider
1969 John Deere 1020, 1940 Ford 9N, 1948 Ford 8N
Jonsered 535, Can of WD-40, Duct Tape
Red Green coffee mugs
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03-18-2018, 10:43 AM
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#680
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Phat Phrog Stunt Crew
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Upper Penisula Michigan / Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolverine 1945
That was our plan,,, but we never got around to it ???
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SO!!!!! What are you waiting for? It's hard to rewind the clock!!
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2014 GMC Sierra Crewcab 2500 Duramax
2014 Wildcat 327ck
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