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Old 02-22-2018, 08:38 AM   #1
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1/2ton Truck tow 261BHXL?

I am still shopping for a truck. We have picked out the 261BHXL as the camper we want to get, but now need to find a suitable TV for the job. Does anyone have this camper and use a half ton truck? I am currently looking at 2011+ Dodge 1500 with the 5.7 Hemi and 4wd, which looks like has a 10k+ tow rating. Would this be sufficient to tow with safely? I know more is always better, but looking to keep the cost down if possible.

I am also curious if a non 4wd or non hemi, with just the standard 4.7 V8 would tow this camper ok.
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Old 02-22-2018, 08:55 AM   #2
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I have a 2017 Wildwood 261bhxl. Tow it with a 2015 Ram 1500 4◊4 5.7 Hemi, 3.55 rear end 6 speed trans. Max tow rating 8650. Does an excellent job of towing it with a WDH. Only problem is payload. Ram site said 1440 payload. But after installing options, payload is (yellow door jam sticker) 1179.
I have to be careful on loading up.
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Old 02-22-2018, 08:56 AM   #3
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I have this exact TT

Tow it with a 2010 Ford F-150 Lariat with blue ox sway pro system.

Tows like a dream... no issues at all
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Old 02-22-2018, 08:57 AM   #4
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Typically with the 1/2 tons, you run out of payload well before you run out of towing capacity. Looking at the floorplan, since it's got bunks I'm going to guess you're bringing kids along? Try to figure out about how much you everyone and everything in the vehicle will weight, subtract that from the payload, and that's what you have left for the hitch & tongue weight of the trailer you're looking at.

My 2010 Ram 1/2 ton only has a payload of 1140. When I hook up, and also load up the kids, DW and the dogs, I'm overloaded, and it's not ideal. I make do because it's what I've got to deal with, but I really wish I knew more about these things before I went shopping for a trailer. You're in the perfect position to match the truck to the trailer you want (versus already having the truck like I did).

Here's two sites you'll want to take a look at to make sure you're getting the right numbers to size your truck right:

Towing Planner - towing capability calculators
Travel Trailer Weight Calculator

Using these, you should be able to estimate how much payload and how much towing capacity you want in your new truck.
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I am still shopping for a truck. We have picked out the 261BHXL as the camper we want to get, but now need to find a suitable TV for the job. Does anyone have this camper and use a half ton truck? I am currently looking at 2011+ Dodge 1500 with the 5.7 Hemi and 4wd, which looks like has a 10k+ tow rating. Would this be sufficient to tow with safely? I know more is always better, but looking to keep the cost down if possible.

I am also curious if a non 4wd or non hemi, with just the standard 4.7 V8 would tow this camper ok.
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Don't be swayed by your truck's advertised tow rating. As the previous post suggests, look at the payload capacity on the yellow sticker inside the driver's door. Let us know that number.

Then tell us about the trailer. Experts here will need to know the published dry weight and tongue weight so they can ignore those fairly useless numbers.

BTW, 4WD normally reduces payload capacity because of the weight of that extra drive equipment.
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Yes, I have one kid, he's almost 6 so he doesn't have much as far as gear. Just the three of us, so we don't have a huge load we haul.

I have a question regarding what is classified as payload, is that everything that is loaded into the camper only? Truck cab / bed? Both?

Very good point on the 4wd, I was under the impression that the 4wd would increase the tow-ability not hinder it, but I see what your saying about the extra weight of the drivetrain. Would it be a good idea to look for a 2wd truck instead of 4 for this purpose?

I would love to be able to buy a larger truck then a 1500, but unless just luck into something not sure if it is in the budget. Now I might could do a 2500 2wd with a standard 4.7 V8 if that would be better then the 1500 with 5.7 Hemi?
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Yes, I have one kid, he's almost 6 so he doesn't have much as far as gear. Just the three of us, so we don't have a huge load we haul.

I have a question regarding what is classified as payload, is that everything that is loaded into the camper only? Truck cab / bed? Both?

Very good point on the 4wd, I was under the impression that the 4wd would increase the tow-ability not hinder it, but I see what your saying about the extra weight of the drivetrain. Would it be a good idea to look for a 2wd truck instead of 4 for this purpose?

I would love to be able to buy a larger truck then a 1500, but unless just luck into something not sure if it is in the budget. Now I might could do a 2500 2wd with a standard 4.7 V8 if that would be better then the 1500 with 5.7 Hemi?
Anything that wasn't in the truck when it rolled off the assembly line with the possible exeception of the driver and a tank of fuel is counted against your payload.
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Old 02-22-2018, 10:00 AM   #8
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OK, so IN the truck. Where does the camper and its contents count? Does the camper tongue weight count as payload? Or just tow capacity?
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The camper's tongue weight does indeed count. Do not worry about your truck's towing capacity. You will reach your payload long before reaching your towing.

The total sum of the weight of all your truck's passengers, stuff in the truck and your camper's tongue weight should be at or below your truck's payload capacity. If you are concerned, load up your truck and camper exactly if you are going camping and head to the nearest CAT scales. That's the only way to know for sure.
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Payload is everything in or on the truck. So, you, family, your kid's booster seat, pets if you got them, snacks, drinks, whatever you have in the bed, like firewood, bikes, coolers, a full tank of fuel, etc....

Typically, you add all that up, and then subtract that from the truck's "combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed" number. What's left is how much extra weight the truck can take from a hitch and the tongue weight of a trailer.

So, let's through a ballpark round number out there of say, 500 lbs. With my truck at 1140, you take:

1140-500=640 lbs

Assume about a 100 lbs for a hitch:

640-100=540 lbs

So, 540 lbs of tongue weight. A good target for tongue weight is around 15% so:

540/15% = 3600 lbs.

As you can see, even the dry weight of that trailer you're looking at is already over that. I think I saw it was in the 4500 range. Loaded with gear, you're going to add between 1000-2000 lbs to that, and in my experience, the first time out you tend to over do it with things you think you might need and go closer to that 2000 mark.

The beauty with your situation is that you can do this stuff in reverse. So, let's again take that assumed 2000 lbs of stuff and that 4500 dry:

2000+4500=6500 @ 15% = 975 lbs tongue weight.

Tongue + hitch + people/cargo:

975+100+500 = 1575 payload.

Now you have a target, with these completely fictitious, made up numbers, you'd be looking for a truck with a 1575 payload and 6500 lbs towing capacity. Of course, these numbers are real, you need to input the real numbers you have on hand, that's where those two sites can help you. Once you do that, and get a feel for the targets, you can use a tool like:

https://www.ramtrucks.com/ram-commer...ers-guide.html

to look up the specs for the vehicles you're looking at, down to the closest possible for specific builds without being able to actually look at the door sticker. Or, if you're going around the dealer lots, when you're checking out the trucks, look at the door sticker first to find the payload ("combined weight of passengers and cargo") number and compare it to your targets.

Hope that helps explain it a bit better.
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