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Old 09-13-2013, 09:23 PM   #1
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Hello again,
I have a 2013 Grand Lodge 408 reds.
The electricity on the kitchen side of the trailer is out. The GFI outlet in the restroom is out but the light switch above that outlet is working. That same GFI outlet is the only one that has the test/reset thing.. Neither the reset button or the test button will (click) (engage?).
The two GFI outlets in the kitchen do not work. The microwave, stove and fridge do not work.
The fridge is a standard one so I just plugged that in somewhere else (for now).
The A/C is not working (South Texas and I have 3 kids in this thang). (one wife ).
I pulled some fuses to see if any looked different and I noticed that a red light to the right of the fuse would come on after I pulled the fuse out. On some of the fuses the red light did not come on when I pulled the fuse out.
The top lights work in the kitchen area and the fluorescent light works above the sink.
The hot water heater is not working ( no problem, South Texas).
All the outlets on the left side (while facing the fireplace) work.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance, y'all
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:44 PM   #2
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For 120v problems you need to be looking at breakers instead of fuses. (Fuses are for 12v stuff.)

If you've reset all the breakers and still have a problem: Is this a 50-amp RV, or 30-amp? If 50, one side of the 50-amp service may be bad at the pedestal.
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:50 PM   #3
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Hello again,
I have a 2013 Grand Lodge 408 reds.
The electricity on the kitchen side of the trailer is out. The GFI outlet in the restroom is out but the light switch above that outlet is working. That same GFI outlet is the only one that has the test/reset thing.. Neither the reset button or the test button will (click) (engage?).
The two GFI outlets in the kitchen do not work. The microwave, stove and fridge do not work.
The fridge is a standard one so I just plugged that in somewhere else (for now).
The A/C is not working (South Texas and I have 3 kids in this thang). (one wife ).
I pulled some fuses to see if any looked different and I noticed that a red light to the right of the fuse would come on after I pulled the fuse out. On some of the fuses the red light did not come on when I pulled the fuse out.
The top lights work in the kitchen area and the fluorescent light works above the sink.
The hot water heater is not working ( no problem, South Texas).
All the outlets on the left side (while facing the fireplace) work.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance, y'all
Gotta believe that is 50 amp service to your rig. If so sounds like one of two 50 amp circuit breakers is open. Sometimes you must toggle the CB handles to open then close to clear a trip. Half the circuits are fed by each circuit breaker.
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:51 PM   #4
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For 120v problems you need to be looking at breakers instead of fuses. (Fuses are for 12v stuff.)

If you've reset all the breakers and still have a problem: Is this a 50-amp RV, or 30-amp? If 50, one side of the 50-amp service may be bad at the pedestal.
Thanks.
Its a 50 amp. Someone said the A/C, hot water heater, etc are 12V. ??
I did all the breaker stuff and the main box outside also.
Happy to still be able to use a fan though.
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The things you mentioned usually need 12v as well as 120v, but you said outlets didn't work. That's all 120. It would be good if you have a meter or circuit tester. If you don't, I suggest you contact the maintenance people at your campground to have them check the power at the pedestal.
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Gotta believe that is 50 amp service to your rig. If so sounds like one of two 50 amp circuit breakers is open. Sometimes you must toggle the CB handles to open then close to clear a trip. Half the circuits are fed by each circuit breaker.
Hello. Thank you.

The only 50 amp breaker I see is the Main breaker. There are two switches but they are combined into one switch.
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I agree with Barry and think you may have problems at the pedestal with the 120/240 volt split phase service.

In real simple terms, with a 50 amp RV, you are being supplied with 50 amps on one 120 volt leg and another 50 amps on a second 120 volt leg.....which give you a total of 100 amps.

Your RV is set up where certain things in it will be powered by one leg, and other stuff will be powered by the second leg.

I think your problem is either in the campground pedestal or your RV power cord.

It sure sounds (and is common) that one leg is not working....and thus you are only getting power from one leg, and not the other one.

That 50 amp double pole (tied together) breaker you see in your breaker box actually controls both 50 amp legs. If one 50 amp side trips, it trips the other 50 amp side too.

I believe your problem is going to be either in the campground pedestal or your power cord.
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I agree with Barry and think you may have problems at the pedestal with the 120/240 volt split phase service.

In real simple terms, with a 50 amp RV, you are being supplied with 50 amps on one 120 volt leg and another 50 amps on a second 120 volt leg.....which give you a total of 100 amps.

Your RV is set up where certain things in it will be powered by one leg, and other stuff will be powered by the second leg.

It sure sounds (and is common) that one leg is not working....and thus you are only getting power from one leg, and not the other one.

That 50 amp double pole (tied together) breaker you see in your breaker box actually controls both 50 amp legs. If one 50 amp side trips, it trips the other 50 amp side too.
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um.. What is a pedestal and where is it?
I have a guy coming tomorrow but just so I can be informed and taken less advantage of by the tech, how would ya go about fixin the bad leg?
I guess the 50 amp breaker is on cause the rest of the trailer has electric.
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This link may also help explain how the 50 amp RV service works, as well as in your troubleshooting for the problem:

RVcruzer.com Electrical Tutorial - Chapter 3 - 30 Amp versus 50 Amp
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um.. What is a pedestal and where is it?
I have a guy coming tomorrow but just so I can be informed and taken less advantage of by the tech, how would ya go about fixin the bad leg?
I guess the 50 amp breaker is on cause the rest of the trailer has electric.
The pedestal is what we are thinking you are plugged into at the campground. I just assumed you are at a campground. Exactly where are you, and what are you getting electricity from? I didn't even think to ask if it was a generator.

All the terminology we are using is explained in the link I provided in the previous post too.
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