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Old 08-07-2016, 06:14 PM   #11
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I had a Reese wdh and bars from our HiLo. I had the dealer set that up before we pulled it off the lot. I added the friction sway control bar a bit later (I picked a used one up very cheap).

I wouldn't pull it out of the driveway without the wdh and bars. But I also don't know how it feels without it.

I do notice a big difference in how "controlled" it feels pulling with the full sized pickup, as opposed to the Pilot.

That being said, I wouldn't be afraid to move it with the Pilot for a VERY short trip.

8mpg- that's about what I get pulling with the F150- if there's wind. So, maybe you're not that bad off..
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Old 08-07-2016, 07:03 PM   #12
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I have a WDH and a friction sway bar. I have pulled the trailer without the sway bar before and did not notice much difference. I have pulled the trailer in March when the wind here in Texas is pretty bad. I was driving west with a north wind for about 100 miles a time or two. The wind was very noticeable but I expected it would be. I have never had a sway issue even in the wind.
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Old 08-07-2016, 07:32 PM   #13
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Do you find the bunks comfortable in case you end up there for the night? I don't vision most older parents climbing in & out of a bunk bed but some might do just fine.

With that said, the 195BH layout seems really useful. And the bunks can double as storage especially for larger items that doesn't fit elsewhere.

The comment from the salesman sticks out in my mind. It would had been better if he had continued to work on a fair price that both parties would be happy with. I'm not sure if I would even brother keeping his card.


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I also tow with a WDH & Friction Sway bar. For me the towing just feels tighter (in control) so I am more comfortable with it on.
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I have never slept in the bunks but I tested the top buck out. It seemed okay. I wound not be very interested in the bottom bunk as it would fill confined. My 19 year old son slept in the top bunk. We put memory foam on both. I am sure the grand kids will go with us this fall.
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Terier my husband has spent every night in the bottom bunk because our 4 year old was too scared to sleep alone, he said it's comfortable.
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Glad the bunks would work out. I'm older and not so flexible nowadays. I also forgot that not all parents are in my parents age group.
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You are all amazing! Thank you for your replies
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Old 08-08-2016, 09:39 AM   #18
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The comment from the salesman sticks out in my mind. It would had been better if he had continued to work on a fair price that both parties would be happy with. I'm not sure if I would even brother keeping his card.
I think he was thinking that I wasn't serious, i'm 25 but have been told I look younger so he probably didn't think someone my age was really looking to buy a travel trailer

I sent him, and several other dealers an email Saturday asking for quotes and mentioning that most people on this forum are paying between 10,000-12,000 for their 195BH's and he replied that he would "look into getting the price lower" when he goes into the office today (Monday) so we will see what comes of it.

I'm in no rush to buy so I have time on my side. In fact, if I can't get it built and delivered by early October, I will probably just wait and order it late winter so that I don't have to store it all winter before even being able to use it
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Good idea, we bought ours in February and they stored it for us at no charge until end of April. They gave us the option of when we wanted to pick it up so could have been sooner or even later, that was the winter where we had record cold and snowfall. It even snowed the day before we went to get it.
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Check everything :)

I have the 2015 174BH bought it brand new in March and here are my thoughts....you will definitely need to do something with the mattresses on the bunks because they are very uncomfortable, the larger one more so than the upper bunk. Within the first 30 days I had to send mine back to the shop for plumbing issues, entire floor was flooded one morning when I woke up. Just called again for service because it is now leaking in between the walls where the plumbing is. The power antenna doesn't work and there is a bulge in the front seam of the camper. I loved this camper when I bought but I am truly having buyers remorse over this one. I paid right around $10,000. As with anything, I am sure I just got one of the not so good ones, but if at all possible check all of the plumbing during your walk through....

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