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Old 01-15-2014, 05:28 AM   #1
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21FBRS Water Heater Bypass & battery disconect

Getting ready to head to Lake Okeechobee for some fishing. I have gone through my new 21FBRS and so far everything is great. Except, I am not fond of not having an under trailer liner.

The only two questions I have are: is the WH bypass located at the water filter (bunch of water pipes there) and what position should the battery disconnect be in?
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Old 01-15-2014, 06:35 AM   #2
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Bob,

The hot water heater bypass valves are aft of the water filter behind a panel, near the hot water heater. Or when you stick your head into the storage area, the water filter is to your left and the hot water heater is to your right (behind a plywood panel).

The battery disconnect is "in" for off (battery disconnected).
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Old 01-15-2014, 06:45 AM   #3
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Getting ready to head to Lake Okeechobee for some fishing. I have gone through my new 21FBRS and so far everything is great. Except, I am not fond of not having an under trailer liner.

The only two questions I have are: is the WH bypass located at the water filter (bunch of water pipes there) and what position should the battery disconnect be in?
I would think you by pass is located where your hot and cold water connections are should be in the back of it. What kinda of battery disconnect is on the unit? With no shore power connected see if your lights work, if not change it the other way and see if they come on then you will know. I have a dumb one that came with mine. works just the opposite a person would think, you pull it out to connect and push it in to disconnect. One FR great idea's.
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Mine is also out to connect and in to disconnect. Does seem to be the opposite of 'what makes sense'.
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It is normal for emergency stop/disconnect button to push in as it is easier if an emergency happens than trying to pull it to disconnect.
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Old 02-07-2014, 12:05 PM   #6
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It is normal for emergency stop/disconnect button to push in as it is easier if an emergency happens than trying to pull it to disconnect.
It would not take any longer to pull it out the push it in. It is like the old head light switch on the cars in the 60's. The main problem is the location, anything that shifts could disconnect you I had to add a 90 degree bracket in front of it so nothing can hit it. It happen to me and didn't know it until I arrived at home and tired to lower my landing gear.
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These both make sense. Never associated it with the car light knob. Great analogy!
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Old 02-15-2014, 06:30 PM   #8
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When towing it needs to be on.If you are not sure if it is on turn on a light.if it come on then you are ok
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Old 03-17-2014, 04:26 PM   #9
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why does switch need to be on when towing? I always make sure it is off.
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why does switch need to be on when towing? I always make sure it is off.
For one it is charging your battery, second you would need it for the refer. And last some breakaway switches are not wired directly to the battery, you need to check that, mine is wired on the other side of the switch, I guess I could move it but why. If we also stop for lunch or a potty break you need to turn your pump on. That's why I leave mine on at least. and I have to bump out my slides to get into the refer because of the island. Each unit is different.......
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Good points. I knew refer. needed it. I have only used it once while traveling. Didn't know it had to be on for charging while being towed. I will check breakaway, think it goes straight to battery.
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why does switch need to be on when towing? I always make sure it is off.
It has to be on so your elec brake works
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It has to be on so your elec brake works
According to Dexter Axle manual that came with my 2014 21FBRS, the Electric Brake Controller provides power to the magnets that activate the trailer's electric brakes. Since the Brake Controller is in the cab of the tow vehicle then the power has to originate there; the battery disconnect in the trailer would have no affect on braking if I'm reading this right.
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According to Dexter Axle manual that came with my 2014 21FBRS, the Electric Brake Controller provides power to the magnets that activate the trailer's electric brakes. Since the Brake Controller is in the cab of the tow vehicle then the power has to originate there; the battery disconnect in the trailer would have no affect on braking if I'm reading this right.
When the Trailer decides to leave your T/V without notice the only Elect.(12V) for your (Brakes) is on the trailer! If your trailer (Unit?) is wired to (Deactivate your E brake switch on the Unit) it needs to be (Active at ALL Times)! Youroo!!
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When the Trailer decides to leave your T/V without notice the only Elect.(12V) for your (Brakes) is on the trailer! If your trailer (Unit?) is wired to (Deactivate your E brake switch on the Unit) it needs to be (Active at ALL Times)! Youroo!!
youroo is correct, the power to your brakes comes from the controller that is why you set it the voltage that is needed to just before you lock them up when you step on your breaks. The emergency breakaway wire is only activated with the TT battery. The battery has to be on. when you pull the little 1/8" line out of the socket the tt breaks lock up. If you do not have power then it will not work. The only way around that is to wire the breakaway to the battery post. then you could still disconnect the battery but still have power to the breakaway safety....Youroo is correct. Most breakaways are not wired to the battery directly they are wired after the disconnect.........
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Based on some TT that made it out of the factory that were not exactly perfect I would suggest you check that E brake connection. With the battery off...pull the breakaway out and listen for your brakes to lock. If you don't hear them activate...turn the battery on and do the same thing. If you hear them activate with the battery switch on, then they need to be rewired so the E brake activates with or without the battery on.
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According to Dexter Axle manual that came with my 2014 21FBRS, the Electric Brake Controller provides power to the magnets that activate the trailer's electric brakes. Since the Brake Controller is in the cab of the tow vehicle then the power has to originate there; the battery disconnect in the trailer would have no affect on braking if I'm reading this right.
When I bought my trailer I was told it had to be on by the dealer for the electric brake to work.When I had my old trailer with out the disconnect I went to get it inspected and they wouldn't inspect it bc I didn't have a battery in it
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According to Dexter Axle manual that came with my 2014 21FBRS, the Electric Brake Controller provides power to the magnets that activate the trailer's electric brakes. Since the Brake Controller is in the cab of the tow vehicle then the power has to originate there; the battery disconnect in the trailer would have no affect on braking if I'm reading this right.
That breakaway cable that you hook up along with the power cord and safety chains is activates the brakes on the trailer so it needs a battery to power those brakes if it breaks away from the tow vehicle. Always tow with a a battery that is connected and charged.
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I accidently pulled breakaway cable when hooking up. TT brakes locked so I couldn't pull it. Battery switch was in. Of course, power cable was hooked to truck as electric brake works through brake light wiring.
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The emergency brake has nothing to do with the tow vehicle brakes. The break-away emergency break is independent of your tow vehicles power and runs off your TT battery. Once it's pulled out of the socket, the brakes apply instantly. I could only imagine that would be one hell of a hairy situation if the ball failed and the TT broke away. The chains will hold but the slack would allow the trailer to take off in wild directions. A white knuckle ride in any case.
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