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Old 07-05-2016, 10:30 PM   #1
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Adding a 120V outlet to outside 120V

I would like to place a 120V circuit male plug on the camper for outside cable going to outside 120V post. Wiring from male plug, to placing kitchen 120V female for using 120V appliances like toaster etc without using the main 30A circuit. Has anyone done this? I have seen some threads where some people run the outside wire through the slide out wiper. I wanted something more permanent.
I thought about putting the male plug in a storage door or using a housing similar to that used for the 30A outside cable. If I decide to place a hole on the outside wall going through to inside for plug, how is the best way to cut an outside hole without splitting the outside fiberglass. I am a little nervous about cutting a hole on the outside fiberglass wall.
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:28 AM   #2
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The best way to cut the hole is to tape over the place you want it, and cut it with a hole saw.

If I were going to that much trouble, I think I'd look at upgrading the 30 amp service to 50 amp.
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I would like 50A service. My converter has a 50A ranking. Trailer is ranked 30A so I don't think the internal wiring will handle 50A. I would have to rewire the trailer. Big job?
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Study up on 30 vs. 50

I'd suggest stopping at Ron Hoover in Rockport, or any repair guy there before going further. 50 amp. service is just two "30 amp." circuits at the AC distribution box. It can be done, but, umbilical cord would need replaced and a 50 breaker box to replace the 30 would do it. That means removing a reattaching "all" wires when replacing the distribution panel.

Your 30 only has one bus to distribute the AC to outlets. The convertor runs off one of the buses in a 50 amp. so the convertor is out of the picture.

Take your time before jumping to far.
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Old 07-30-2016, 05:19 PM   #5
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Missed this when it was first posted...

I think you're talking about one of these.

I installed one with a 2" holesaw in the side of a slide so its on the inside when the slide is in and right beside the shore-power connection when the slide is out.
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I have done this to my Flagstaff. Just like was said above, tape and a hole saw. Pretty easy.


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Old 07-30-2016, 06:26 PM   #7
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Can you put it through the wall where the propane bottles are? If you have a front kitchen, that would keep it real dry. I'm contemplating that for a female outlet off the spare slot in the distribution panel.

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Can you put it through the wall where the propane bottles are? If you have a front kitchen, that would keep it real dry. I'm contemplating that for a female outlet off the spare slot in the distribution panel.

Pizza here, BYE!
I'd be hesitant to put anything electrical in the propane compartment. A small propane leak and a spark plugging in or unplugging and ..... BOOM.
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I don't think I will put in the LP compartment. I have a storage compartment on the front side that is where I was thinking about installing.
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This is the plug I used on my setup:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I taped off the area to be drilled through, marked my spot, and used a hole saw for drilling. Then made a wood washer for the inside since the fiberglass was thin and I wanted to distribute the pressure more evenly. Then installation w/ silicone sealant to prevent any water intrusion. I used some romex 10/2 w/ ground I had laying around to wire it directly to a plug inside. (I could have used 12 but didn't have any.) I then used some expanding foam on the backside to replace some of the styrofoam insulation that had to be removed to get everything to thread together.

I did not use a GFCI outlet since all the campground 15A outlets I have seen are GFCI anyway.

It looks as if it came that way from the factory and was cheap and easy to do.
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Just be aware that this solution will not always get you the extra 20A. Many campgrounds have a tree structure in their electrical distribution system. That means that three 30A pedestals are wired through a 100A breaker. That means that if it is hot or cold and you two neighbors are using their 30A and a little from the 20A outlet, there may only be 30A or a little more for you before all three sites are out of electricity.

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I would like to place a 120V circuit male plug on the camper for outside cable going to outside 120V post. Wiring from male plug, to placing kitchen 120V female for using 120V appliances like toaster etc without using the main 30A circuit. Has anyone done this? I have seen some threads where some people run the outside wire through the slide out wiper. I wanted something more permanent.
I thought about putting the male plug in a storage door or using a housing similar to that used for the 30A outside cable. If I decide to place a hole on the outside wall going through to inside for plug, how is the best way to cut an outside hole without splitting the outside fiberglass. I am a little nervous about cutting a hole on the outside fiberglass wall.
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