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Old 09-02-2015, 10:46 AM   #1
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Flagstaff Classic vs Keystone Cougar?

looking down the road to our next camper. I would like it now, DW wants to wait, not sure which one of us is going to win this one... lol.

Currently liking 1 floorplan from Flagstaff Classic and 2 models from the Keystone Cougar lineup. I know this is Forest River/Flagstaff forum so I realize the replies may be skewed, but is there any compelling reason to choose Flagstaff if we decide one of the Cougars fits our needs better?

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Old 09-02-2015, 11:12 AM   #2
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You might want to name the Flagstaff model in which you are interested, as someone here likely has first hand experience with it and could provide more in depth insights about the floor plan, etc.

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Old 09-02-2015, 11:47 AM   #3
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You might want to name the Flagstaff model in which you are interested, as someone here likely has first hand experience with it and could provide more in depth insights about the floor plan, etc.
Flagstaff 831RKBSS/Rockwood 8310SS, rear kitchen same exact floorplan we have now in our Salem but better finishes/features.

Cougar 30RLI or 33RES. Really liking the room of the opposing slides, and the fact that on the rare occasion someone is sleeping on the couch you don't have to disturb them to get to the kitchen. Main reason for not going this route before was a large oak tree beside my driveway that blocked the 1 slide from opening, but the tree died suddenly and was removed last week. I would rather have the tree than the slide but mother nature apparently thought otherwise.

main requirements are pass thru storage, I want fiberglass exterior/aluminum studding for durability and ease of cleaning, and wife and I both want 80" bed no more camper queen for us.
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Old 09-02-2015, 02:36 PM   #4
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I went from a 2010 318SAB Cougar to a 2016 34RL Cedar Creek unit and have never looked back. The Cougar was ok and did us will for the time we had it but dealing with KEYSTONE is like dealing with walls in a home. You can talk to a wall and do you get a response? NO!

Do not look for the support that Forest River provides their customers at the international F.R.O.G. rally. Keystone does not provide this level of support; by the way there is none.

We have some issues with tge Cougar and my main complaint was the cracking and peeling decals on the Cougar. These started to look shabby just after three years of ownership. I tried to buy replacement decals but I did not have any luck.

I would stick with Forest River and the 5er that provides what you want.

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Old 09-03-2015, 04:49 PM   #5
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Thumbs up FR

I am currently on a 100 day summer vacation adventure in my2015 831FKBSS Classic Super Lite. This travel trailer has been great. I have owned many units over the last 15 years or more. I feel the design and construction material they use is higher quality. This trailer is awesome. We have had warranty issues but pretty much all were resolved. I just toured the plant and was amazed at how fast the workers work. that unfortunately does not promote quality vs profit. But that is the business we live with.
Both units have pluses and minuses so it comes down to you and the features you are looking for.
Must haves in my book for any RV; 80 inch bed, HD drawer slides, frameless windows, storage design. Our unit fits the bill for us and more.
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Old 09-03-2015, 08:50 PM   #6
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Our first txt was a Keystone Cougar that we bought used and camped in over 3 years. Floor plan had not changed from 2007 to 2011 and we were tired of some of the limited features. In August of 2011 traded to the 831fkbss and what a difference. Full size bed, I am 6 ft 1, kitchen storage, bath and bed room storage much greater. Unit had a 1300 pounds cargo. Two things I do not like is not much outside storage without pass through due front kitchen, bought a lockable cover for TV to solve that. Will be changing out the loveseat to a reclining one or two recliners shortly. Have not used the air mattress in the stationary one in four years, still in the packing from factory. In four years, have camped over 200 nights, pulled over 20k miles, no real complaints with the Flagstaff Classic. A couple of minor issues either FR or the dealer took care of them no questions asked. Unit is called the Mariotton Wheels as I had enough hotel stay before I retired. Good luck in your search.
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Might also want to consider that Keystone just had a huge recall on their slides. Basically all slide units in the recall.

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