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Old 12-12-2007, 10:27 PM   #11
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Whooooo-ah!
Bringing the pump inside is prolly the kicker.

Say Mr. Plumber....
How does a person pump antifreeze into a residential style toilet with no onboard water pump? (park trailer)

I used a manual pump from the outside city water connection to get antifreeze into the system. For the toilet, I sponged all the water from the toilet tank, and bowl. I dumped a little pink stuff in both, but failed to see how to actually 'flush' the stuff from the tank to the rim and down the bowl...like you would an RV style toilet. Have any idea if this is even necessary, or is there no water up to the rim to worry about?
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Old 12-12-2007, 10:45 PM   #12
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Whooooo-ah!
Bringing the pump inside is prolly the kicker.

Say Mr. Plumber....
How does a person pump antifreeze into a residential style toilet with no onboard water pump? (park trailer)

I used a manual pump from the outside city water connection to get antifreeze into the system. For the toilet, I sponged all the water from the toilet tank, and bowl. I dumped a little pink stuff in both, but failed to see how to actually 'flush' the stuff from the tank to the rim and down the bowl...like you would an RV style toilet. Have any idea if this is even necessary, or is there no water up to the rim to worry about?
At my parents cabin that's what we do, sponge all the water out and dump antifreeze in the tank and the bowl. A good thing to do also is prop the float in the tank up so the line remains open. Therefore if any low spots have water or no antifreeze the line can freeze and expand without breaking. There is no water anywhere in between the tank and the bowl.
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Old 12-12-2007, 11:21 PM   #13
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Thanks. Good to know. I wasn't sure when I winterized if I'd done it right. I have never had this type of system in an RV before.
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Old 12-13-2007, 06:30 PM   #14
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I use air as well instead of antifreeze, I know that RV antifreeze is suppose the be safe but, I don't like the idea of a pink chemical in my water lines. I was reading another thread about a member who had spilled the pink stuff on there grass and another member replied, in a matter of words, said it well kill the grass turn it brown!
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Old 12-13-2007, 11:09 PM   #15
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Prolly was me. Heck, I think I posted pix of it.
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Old 12-17-2007, 07:35 PM   #16
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Thanks for the info on the filter cartridges. Please do not take offense with the following. I do not doubt your expertise, I am just trying to understand what I need and why.
Where did you get the info on the filter cartridge? All I could find in my manual was the replacement cart. number and the manufacturer--The Water Pur Company and phone #. I plan to call them for tech info. I stopped at a Lowe's and looked at some different ones, but forgot to take my old filter with me, so could not determine the correct size. The ones I looked at didn't have much info but I did like the price. Their was one pack of 2 carts for I think $6.50. I did notice some "whole house" filters that were a little higher priced--some about $10 and others up to $29. I'll get the lowdown from Water Pur in a day or two and see if I can get info from Lowe's also.
A friend told me that the camper filters are more costly because they have to filter out bacteria that grows in your fresh water tank. That is what he thougt he remembered from a few years ago when he owned an AirStream. He said to not depend on what he remembers.
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Old 12-18-2007, 05:54 AM   #17
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Thanks for the info on the filter cartridges. Please do not take offense with the following. I do not doubt your expertise, I am just trying to understand what I need and why.
Where did you get the info on the filter cartridge?

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I'm no expert, I just surf alot.
The Forest River water filtration information can be found HERE .

As I said before, I have no need for an expencive filter cartridge as we carry bottled water with us for drinking and cooking.
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Old 12-18-2007, 07:55 AM   #18
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Forest River calls for a (0.5) Micron replacement filter, rated at 2.5 gpm. (One Micron = one-millionth of a meter)

Being we don't use our on-board water, or city connection for drinking(bath & toilet only), I bought a 20 Micron replacement cartridge with a rating of 12 gpm.

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The Forest River water filtration information can be found HERE .

As I said before, I have no need for an expencive filter cartridge as we carry bottled water with us for drinking and cooking.
Forest River recommends a .5 micron filter? Holy cow! Iím with you Milzat, get something larger or you wonít have any water pressure. I use a 10 micron carbon filter when I use one (most of the times I donít, Iíll set up a Brita filter on the counter top for drinking water). At .5 you are almost getting into RO filtration. I buy all my water filters from http://www.airwaterice.com/ I have one of their ED RO units in the house http://www.airwaterice.com/product/1...is_System.html and run it to my fridge as well ( I love the crystal clear ice cubes ). Their replacement pre-filters before the RO membrane are all standard size which you can get anywhere(9 7/8" x 2 1/2").

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A friend told me that the camper filters are more costly because they have to filter out bacteria that grows in your fresh water tank. That is what he thougt he remembered from a few years ago when he owned an AirStream. He said to not depend on what he remembers.
Unless you plan on an RO system you will not be filtering out all the bacteria from your water. If your filter is the kind that fits in one of those spin off canisters the filter sizes are 9 7/8" x 2 1/2". This is the industry standard size. My FILís Rockwood has this size filter canister. I would recommend a 10 Ė 20 micron carbon filter. This would provide a chlorine free and decent tasting water and give pretty decent flow. .5 micron is nuts in my opinion as the one and only filter. As far as bacteria in your fresh tankÖÖÖÖ. Your fresh tank should be cleaned and sanitized every season and kept fresh with either a bit of regular bleach or other fresh water treatments and there are a lot of options out there.

Now if you do want super filtered water there are portable/counter top RO systems that you can install in your RV. But RO systems need water pressure to operate efficiently.
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Old 12-18-2007, 04:37 PM   #19
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Thanks guys for your advice. I talked with The Water Pur Company this morning and got more info than I could comprehend. I like the points that you make. I wasn't even thinking about what I need, only replacing what I screwed up. I can see where you are coming from. It didn't dawn on me that we use bottled water for drinking and also fill jugs with tap water and freeze them for use in the ice chest and freezer. When the jugs melt down, we use them for drinking.
If I go to a larger(?) filter will that increase my water pressure in the shower when using the pump? Boy there sure is a lot to learn about RVing. I guess I did too much camping in a tent.
Thanks again guys for your help.
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If I go to a larger(?) filter will that increase my water pressure in the shower when using the pump?
A larger micron rating such as a 10 - 20 will give you increased pressure over the .5 micron that came with the trailer. A 10 micron carbon filter is a good all around size. Small enough to filter out most particulate, the carbon will make your water taste better, and you will have decent water pressure. The 20 micron filter would be considered a sediment filter as it has no carbon in it.
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