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09-03-2015, 02:13 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Southern Illinois
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tipakajohn
Pick up a Trailer-Aid Plus from Amazon and a 4way lug wrench from your local auto parts store.
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X2. We have both of these items as well, plus a small Hydraulic Jack. Bottle Jack we cannot use....not enough clearance.
Although, I would suggest getting the collapsible 4 way lug wrench. Works great! It's a perfect fit when folded to stash away in your cubbies.
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09-03-2015, 02:34 PM
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It is amazing that a $30K trailer doesn't even have a jack and wrench. We have let the manufacturers ignore common sense again. As long as we accept it, we will lose.
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09-03-2015, 03:16 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RETCHIEF
It is amazing that a $30K trailer doesn't even have a jack and wrench. We have let the manufacturers ignore common sense again. As long as we accept it, we will lose.
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Trailers have never as long as they have been built come with jacks & a wrench nothing new. Even a spare tire is an extra cost. There may be a few exceptions but that is typical of the industry whether a camper, a box trailer or utility trailer, whether its 10K or 100K. Common sense has nothing to do with it
When you have owned numerous trailers of all types its not at all surprising.....
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09-03-2015, 03:44 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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My flagstaff tt came with a wheel lug socket!
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09-03-2015, 06:39 PM
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Junior Member
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Oh well Im good, I did get a three year Good Sam roadside assistance with the purchase of the trailer.
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09-03-2015, 09:41 PM
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Just a member
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Location: Great White North
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TURBS
My flagstaff tt came with a wheel lug socket!
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Our Rockwood too. Stamped: 3/4 x 13/16 x 28mm.
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09-03-2015, 09:50 PM
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Member
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Location: O'Fallon, IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oaklevel
Trailers have never as long as they have been built come with jacks & a wrench nothing new. Even a spare tire is an extra cost. There may be a few exceptions but that is typical of the industry whether a camper, a box trailer or utility trailer, whether its 10K or 100K. Common sense has nothing to do with it
When you have owned numerous trailers of all types its not at all surprising.....
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As long as we say OK, it won't change. Why do we just accept what they give? If you press the dealer you can get a jack and wrench if they want a sale. I pressed and got what I wanted. Their commission has room for a $30 jack and a $7 wrench.
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09-03-2015, 10:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by j free
I use a bottle jack and I have an electric luge gun. Change tires in 3 to 5 mins.
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Takes me 10-15 minutes Start generator get wrench and cord, pull the cover off the spare......
Quote:
Originally Posted by RETCHIEF
As long as we say OK, it won't change. Why do we just accept what they give? If you press the dealer you can get a jack and wrench if they want a sale. I pressed and got what I wanted. Their commission has room for a $30 jack and a $7 wrench.
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Would it be a jack and a wrench worth using?
I think not!
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09-03-2015, 10:28 PM
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you wouldn't want to pay the price
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09-03-2015, 11:03 PM
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Location: Eastern PA
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First thought, if you have a spare, check your pressure before you go. Mine was at 40psi.
Get a Trailer Aid and use it before you have to after a flat and a possible side wall separation. Best to practice when it is not a stressful situation.
While you are getting familiar with the Aid, check your lug torques. I needed to use the impact wrench to get the lugs off before I set them back to recommended torque (and check it before each trip.)
I am sure a could eventually get the rig lifted with a bottle jack, but the Trailer Aid is so much simpler.
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09-03-2015, 11:45 PM
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Mod free 5er
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Location: Concord, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TURBS
My flagstaff tt came with a wheel lug socket!
TURBS
08 duramax tuned n modded
2011 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "24 nights"
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Neither our 08Flagstaff or 12Flagstaff came with lug wrench or socket.
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09-04-2015, 05:00 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Space Coast, FL
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Forgot to add, the Gorilla Wrench also has a thin-walled socket option. Win-win...
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09-04-2015, 06:49 AM
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Senior Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
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Why a 4 Way?
Instead of a torque wrench and socket? Doesn't everybody understand the importance of the correct torque on their wheels? Both the TTs we have owned had prominent advisories in the manuals and displayed on the TTs informing us to check the torque frequently. Maybe I am missing something here? Yes, I am sure the 4 way might be a bit faster but judging the torque on the lug nuts is an absolute crap shoot for most. BTW... I have been told that torque that is too high or uneven can be a bad thing as well.
I just don't understand hauling around another item that is actually redundant. Space and weight being the issues they are.
Yes, I'm the guy at the rest area going around his TT with a torque wrench and tire pressure gauge. Many times have needed to retighten a nut here or there.. maybe just a few ft/lbs, but still gives me added peace of mind. I also am feeling the temperature of the wheels and tires at the same time.
best regards, Mike
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09-04-2015, 07:00 AM
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Georgia Rally Coordinator
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Special crome wheels took special lug wrench. Later RJD
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09-04-2015, 07:02 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: SE Iowa
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and if any of you think your your truck jack will lift that 12,000 pond camper good luck buy a good 20 ton bottle jack or something it actually easier to use that on the truck too saw a guy ruin 2 jacks before he went out and bought a strong enough one to lift his
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09-05-2015, 03:51 PM
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Lug wrench and jack cut me a break that's what AAA is for but when I looked at my new camper when I got it home it had no food or beer in it
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09-05-2015, 03:59 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Idaho
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bareftn
Lug wrench and jack cut me a break that's what AAA is for but when I looked at my new camper when I got it home it had no food or beer in it
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Clearly the result of a poor PDI, hope you did not pay for it....
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09-05-2015, 04:45 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muddyrode
and if any of you think your your truck jack will lift that 12,000 pond camper good luck buy a good 20 ton bottle jack or something it actually easier to use that on the truck too saw a guy ruin 2 jacks before he went out and bought a strong enough one to lift his
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20 ton bottle jack? Wow that's 40,000 lbs. Remember one should only be lifting one side of the trailer at a time and with the front being on the hitch or the ground it's really less than half. For your example of a 12,000 pound camper divide by 2 and you have 6000 pounds or 3 tons. A 6 ton bottle jack should work fine. My rule of thumb then would be to get a bottle jack rated at the weight of your trailer. Plenty of wiggle room left.
Now if your RV is weighing in at 40,000 lbs. A 20 ton jack is in order
I have a 6 ton for mine and it lifts it with ease.
best regards, Mike
BTW..... I've got AAA too but for changing a tire?? And what about when you are not in good cell phone country... or maybe you were just kidding around??
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09-07-2015, 02:33 PM
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Always Learning
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Location: Four Corners, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bareftn
Lug wrench and jack cut me a break that's what AAA is for
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Heck no, my last AAA experience in a car was a snowy day around the DC beltway. Was no fun sitting in it for 3 1/2 hours waiting for the tow truck to arrive. Our first stop was a bathroom!
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