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12-09-2019, 02:20 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: California
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Originally Posted by cavie
The weight of US dry gallon of water is defined as 9.71 pounds.
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I haven't heard of anyone using the "dry" gallon in years. You realize that isn't commonly used right? Not sure there are many totes measured in dry gallons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_gallon
8.34#/gallon is the correct answer.
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12-09-2019, 11:18 AM
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Always Learning
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Four Corners, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by babock
I haven't heard of anyone using the "dry" gallon in years. You realize that isn't commonly used right? Not sure there are many totes measured in dry gallons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_gallon
8.34#/gallon is the correct answer.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cavie
The weight of US dry gallon of water is defined as 9.71 pounds.
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Thanks for the link babock, I wasn't wondering what-the-frankfurter a "dry gallon" was.
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12-09-2019, 01:06 PM
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Trailer Park Supervisor
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Location: Northern NJ
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Originally Posted by ependydad
Thanks for the link babock, I wasn't wondering what-the-frankfurter a "dry gallon" was.
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Still popular with the bushel and a peck crowd!
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12-19-2019, 07:53 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Saint Charles, MO
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Possible tote aid
If you are wanting to move forward with the tote, one solution to make it easier to move might be a garden cart like this one: https://www.northerntool.com/shop/to...1806_200641806
I have had them for years. The large wheels makes it easy to transport all sorts of things. What you can do is stand it on end, load up the Camco Rhino and head up the hill. I currently have thee different ones. One is all aluminum and folds up so it is very compact ... but I still prefer the wood ones for hauling really heavy stuff or rock.
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12-19-2019, 09:07 PM
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I store my camper on my side yard. It’s about 60’ from the sewer cleanout at my house. It’s also uphill. I have a tote but it’s very difficult to move over the rock parking pad and grass in the yard. I bought the valterra sewer solution plus 50’ of extension hose to empty my tanks. It uses water from your hose as a macerator to dump your tanks up to 100’ and 3’ uphill. It works very well and is MUCH easier than using the tote. If you have water at your site I would really recommend going that route.
Valterra Kit with 10 Ft SS01 Complete SewerSolution System-10' https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CCYWJQK..._GSc.Db53YYPA9
Valterra SS25 Sewer Solution 25 Ft Extension Hose https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HSO0E20..._JXc.Db8G4H9WW
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12-19-2019, 09:16 PM
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#46
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Join Date: Dec 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dieseldodge
This past summer I found dumping with the macerator a bit tedious (which I prefer to put away after each use). We have a 'private' campground (two & a half acres) in the mountains/forest where the septic is about 75 feet from where we park the Flagstaff. Been looking at one of those Camco Rhino poop tanks that has a good size wheel on it, that should roll over the somewhat rough terrain on the way to the septic.
What concerns me is the weight of this thing (when full) while I'm trying to get it to the septic. One thought I had was using a trailer dolly on the front of it making it a 'wagon' of sorts. Anyone try this.....or have better idea? Too many trees to use an ATV.
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dieseldodge, I have a 35 gallon Thedford Tote Tank II (2 wheel version) and I do exactly what you are describing with the trailer dolly. I used some 2500# rope to fashion a short handle to loop over the trailer ball on the dolly. When you push down on the dolly handle, the leverage easily lifts the front of the tank off the ground and makes it easy to tow. In fact, at the campground, I usually tow the dolly and loaded tank with my mountain bicycle. The 8" plastic wheels roll easily on paved surfaces. For your situation, if the terrain is too rough to pull the 300# loaded tank over to the dump point with the thinner wheels, change out the 1/2" axle to 5/8" and get a couple of 10" pneumatic wheels from Harbor Freight (usually on sale for $3.99ea.) ................... Swampy
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12-19-2019, 09:34 PM
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#47
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 200
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I volunteer at a park and we have elk hunters who use game carts to carry out an entire elk carcass (500 pounds?) in one trip with a game cart. Available from Midway USA or other hunting retailers.
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12-19-2019, 09:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 499
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I saw where a guy used one of those trailer hitch racks you get at Harbor Freight for $60 and a blue 50 gallon barrel that he lays down on the rack and fastens it with ratchet straps. He fills it next to his rig with the emaciater pump and then drives to the dump point to empty the barrel. This will only work of course if you have a tow vehicle with a trailer hitch.
Personally I would not want to deal with all that I would rent a trencher, lay some 1 inch pipe to the sewer location and bury the pipe.
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12-19-2019, 10:53 PM
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Hawksclaw554
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Watson, Louisiana
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Water weighs 8.33 lbs per gal. Multiply that times 40 gal and you are at 333lbs plus the weight of the tote. I couldn’t imagine pulling something like that uphill over rough terrain.
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12-19-2019, 11:16 PM
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Kankakee
Posts: 60
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If it was my property i would trench in a pvc waste line running downhill to an area next to your sewer dump and set in a pit next to it. Then an automatic macerater pump from the pit to the sewer line with a check valve going to the sewer line. If you can do most or all the work it would end up more camper friendly.
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12-20-2019, 08:45 AM
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#51
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 164
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Appreciate the additional posts. The cart suggestions (game & garden) are worth consideration, but rather large pieces of equipment to keep around. As we all know poop only goes downhill 'naturally', that goes for filling totes or PVC lines. To go uphill with it you either need to manually move it or pump it. I started this thread because I was looking to perhaps figure out a way to quickly/easily do the manual thing.
Swampy's post gives me some confidence that a fairly small additional piece of equipment (trailer dolly) may get the job done without too much effort.
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12-20-2019, 10:19 PM
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#52
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: On the move
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If you happen to own an airplane here is something to move both, the plane and the poop tank.
https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=...10.Wba9BjGHnoE
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12-21-2019, 09:21 AM
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#53
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 574
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cavie
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I have the same exact one and can you tell it is hard enough to pull this thing on level pavement. Trying to get through 75 ft of trees and brush would be a pain in back amongst other places.
The front tires while they do hold air get stuck on any larger then a pebble.
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12-22-2019, 12:53 PM
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#54
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Western N.C.
Posts: 58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Live4boating
I store my camper on my side yard. It’s about 60’ from the sewer cleanout at my house. It’s also uphill. I have a tote but it’s very difficult to move over the rock parking pad and grass in the yard. I bought the valterra sewer solution plus 50’ of extension hose to empty my tanks. It uses water from your hose as a macerator to dump your tanks up to 100’ and 3’ uphill. It works very well and is MUCH easier than using the tote. If you have water at your site I would really recommend going that route.
Valterra Kit with 10 Ft SS01 Complete SewerSolution System-10' https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CCYWJQK..._GSc.Db53YYPA9
Valterra SS25 Sewer Solution 25 Ft Extension Hose https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HSO0E20..._JXc.Db8G4H9WW
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This is interesting. Thinking this may be a solution for my use while in home storage. However, most say it works but the reviews are ripe with stories of leaks, no one wants that!
Can you (or anyone) comment on the quality of fit and finish on this product?
Leaks?
Thanks, Benny
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12-22-2019, 06:51 PM
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#55
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pourme
This is interesting. Thinking this may be a solution for my use while in home storage. However, most say it works but the reviews are ripe with stories of leaks, no one wants that!
Can you (or anyone) comment on the quality of fit and finish on this product?
Leaks?
Thanks, Benny
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Maybe we’ve been lucky but we have not had leak issues and we have two 25’ sections connected to the main 10’ section, I especially like it because I don’t have a black tank flush built in to my camper. This system allows you to flush the tank when you finish dumping it. We also don’t always have strong water pressure and it still works great. We still use our tote periodically, but only when we are dry camping for extending trips since we leave the valterra system at home. Also I use a dedicated water hose for this. Highly recommend.
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