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Old 02-02-2009, 05:03 AM   #11
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Save the propane, the electric is part of your site fee.
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Old 02-02-2009, 07:52 AM   #12
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My only gripe is that they didn't spend the extra $5 on wire to remote the electric switch from outside to the panel inside next to the propane switch. .
Don't you have a 120v circuit breaker for the water heater?
Is your breaker panel hard to get at?

I typically leave my outside electric switch on but I shut off the inside
breaker when we don't want/need the hot water heater to heat.
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Old 02-02-2009, 05:02 PM   #13
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Don't you have a 120v circuit breaker for the water heater?
Is your breaker panel hard to get at?

I typically leave my outside electric switch on but I shut off the inside
breaker when we don't want/need the hot water heater to heat.
Yeah I do, but I don't want to bend over to do it...LOL...How pathetic huh?

With all the push button leveling, push a button put the slides out, push a button and the awning comes out, I just want a convienient button on the wall to turn the electric side on. I had one laying in the drawer that is red and lights up when on, I have already run some 12ga wire down into a compartment for the switch I just have to do it.
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:21 AM   #14
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If I understand what you are going to do.......
you are going to put a switch inside that turns the electric heater
on in your water heater.
I guess you will put it in series with the one outside in the heater compartment?
Just wanted to remind you that is 120vAC and any switch lighted or not needs
to be for that application.

My apologies for butting in if you already know this but I'd hate for someone
to go to radio shack or Autozone and get a lighted automotive switch and hook it
in like you say. It would likely go bang as soon as it was energized.
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I have been reading all of this, and I have to admit I'm a little puzzled. When we are camping, everytime I hit the water heater switch inside the trailer I hear the gas turn on. I was thinking this was always the case. The switch on the outside has always been on since we've had the TT. Right now the switch is off since I just emptied the water heater. What is the best way to find out wether the electric element is working or not.
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Well, everything is working OK now. I wish that I could be specific and tell you all exactly what I did to make it work, but I can't. After some experimenting and reading,(thanks to Joe Falco for the link to the manual for my unit), I believe that the following occurred.

At some point the electric element faulted out on high temperature. Since the gas burner never let it get below 100 degrees, it would not reset. It was only when I dumped the tank and replaced the electric element then refilled the tank that the water was under 100 degrees and accepted the reset. If this proves not to be the case I will get back to you all but for now the gas switch is off, and the water is being heated just fine with the electric element.

Thanks again for all the help.
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The switch on the outside has always been on since we've had the TT. Right now the switch is off since I just emptied the water heater. What is the best way to find out wether the electric element is working or not.
The best way to tell if it's working is to fill the water heater, hook to shore power, make sure the breaker inside the power center is on, turn the switch outside behind the access panel on and wait about 20 to 30 minutes to see if the water is getting hot.

You can test the element with an ohm meter by turning off all power (unhooking the power source) and placing the leads across the element terminals. It should read about 10 ohms. You can test the high temp cutout the same way but it should read zero ohms across it. Did I mention that you HAVE TO TURN OFF ALL POWER!
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I never knew you could heat up the water electrically. Nobody at the dealer ever told me this, I don't think. Anyway, thanks for the help, I just need to find out which of the breakers is the one for the water heater. So I guess this means that if the water heater breaker and outside switch are on, the water heater element will automatically come on when we hook up to shore power, correct?
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If I understand what you are going to do.......
you are going to put a switch inside that turns the electric heater
on in your water heater.
I guess you will put it in series with the one outside in the heater compartment?
Just wanted to remind you that is 120vAC and any switch lighted or not needs
to be for that application.

My apologies for butting in if you already know this but I'd hate for someone
to go to radio shack or Autozone and get a lighted automotive switch and hook it
in like you say. It would likely go bang as soon as it was energized.
Happy Camping!
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I actually plan on unpluging the switch at the water heater and conecting my remote wires to the switch wires there. In effect remoting the switch to the cabinet inside the rig. I could just use the existing switch but a lighted one to let you know it is still on is nice. Yes I do know to use a 120V switch. I did the same thing on our old motorhome and it was real nice to have especially when you are at a park with 30amp power running the A/C and you have to turn off something to use the mircrowave. It was just easier to flip the electric element off on the water heater with the switch being right there.

You are correct though to assume that not all people reading this thread in the future might know there is a difference to the switchs and just by a 12v one which won't do the job. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Old 02-03-2009, 12:08 PM   #20
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I just need to find out which of the breakers is the one for the water heater. So I guess this means that if the water heater breaker and outside switch are on, the water heater element will automatically come on when we hook up to shore power, correct?
In a word-- yep!

The electric heater switch outside in the water heater access door
is often hidden behind a pipe so look carefully if you don't see it right
off. On a brand new unit there may be a safety wire or clip in the switch
that you will have to remove in order to turn the switch on.
We hope the circuit breaker inside your fuse box/power center
for the water heater is labeled!!

You do need to remember to switch off the electric heater when you are
not using the trailer. Any time the water pump is off and you are not on
city water, the water heater electric and gas should be OFF.

This is just one of the reasons we use check lists for what to bring
and what to check when we are leaving.
I once tried to move my trailer with a leveling jack down.
It bends the heck out of the jack when you do that!
I've seen folks drive off with the TV antenna up.
Make up your own check list and print copies and use it every time.

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