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Old 08-06-2015, 06:59 PM   #1
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Surge protector

What type do I need to look for , 30 amp bumper pull FR 831 RKSS. I looked on Amazon . They start at 80.00 -- 350.00 ??
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Old 08-06-2015, 07:24 PM   #2
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This year I purchased the Progressive Industries EMS 50 AMP portable. They have a Lifetime Warranty. I chain it up to the electrical pedestal to keep it from walking off. Was going to get the hardwired unit, but:
1) didn't want to jeopardize my TT warranty

2) these units have a transformer buzzing sound that I didn't want to hear while in the TT. I never hear the portable unit being outside.

3) if it ever has an issue just unplug it and send it in for warranty work

The 30 AMP portable unit isn't real pricey for what it's protecting if something goes wrong with the CG electricity. https://www.rvupgradestore.com/Progr...0C-p/pt30c.htm
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Old 08-06-2015, 07:49 PM   #3
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Wait, first explain "bumper pull FR 831 RKSS". That's >6000lbs tied to your bumper? OK, You'll get a lot of "IMHO" but more of "IMSO In My Strong Opinion". The Progressive Industries EMS would be the best (IMHO). But, it really is the level of protection you want. I did the PI EMS HW 30. But I have a lot of friends that just went with the Surge Guard (at 1/5th the price). PI's are lifetime. Some people have reported the Surge Guards have fried after their warranty (doing its job). The SG's will tell you if the pole is mis-wired when you plug it in. Look at the two manufacturers. You won't get anyone here to not tell you to get a PI EMS. PS. Power surges and Power Protection are two different things.
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Old 08-06-2015, 08:08 PM   #4
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It's not a 5th wheel . I ask the forum for their experience and thoughts ...... thanks
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Old 08-06-2015, 08:16 PM   #5
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30 amp hardwired progressive industries with lifetime warranty.
Less then an hour to install.
Never heard mine buzzing or humming.
I put plugs on it if it go's bad I unplug unit and plug the other two ends together.
Will not void camper warranty.
Out of site out of mind.
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Old 08-06-2015, 08:18 PM   #6
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I have and would strongly recommend the PI unit that gashog has linked in his post(#2). FULL protection and lifetime warranty make it worth the price.
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Thanks Capsfloyd for the clarification. I guess I got confused between the difference of Bumper Mounted Ball vs Receiver Hitch. I also guess it confuses me when people are steered to more than what they want...like having to have an F350 DRW to tow a pup or a Hensley Arrow because ye' old receiver hitch is now too dangerous to tow.
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Old 08-06-2015, 08:32 PM   #8
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Insurance is just that, how much are you willing to pay and how much do you want protected. The Progressive EMS can't be beat and is a lifetime unit. One incident can be very costly to repair, as the saying goes "you pays your money and takes your chances".
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Absolutely, and that is why I went with the PI EMS. A CG I went to year after year with my last HTT and never "noticed" a problem and when I went this year, I had major issues that could have blown my A/C or Microwave was an issue. The PI showed a low voltage situation that could have been dangerous. The couple next door (also a year after year camper at this CG) lost their microwave last year at that CG with their new trailer. I stayed once at a 5 start CG near Boston (in all reviews) where the post I had to plug in to was shared between 4 sites. Two got 30 amp sockets, two shared a duplex. Yes, I arrived later, got a 15 amp duplex hole to power my camper.
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Old 08-07-2015, 05:32 AM   #10
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the units at 1/5 th price give you less than 1/5th the protection. Surge protection is actually the least of your worries. You need protection from high and low voltage, open neutrals and grounds, etc. You get what you pay for, so go with the best. Progressive Industries EMS series.
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Old 08-07-2015, 05:40 AM   #11
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We are getting our first RV on the 18th. 2014 sunseeker I think it's 30amp. Would it be ok to purchase the 50amp surge protector? Or go with the 30 and sell with the unit down the road? Sorry if this is a newbie question.
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We are getting our first RV on the 18th. 2014 sunseeker I think it's 30amp. Would it be ok to purchase the 50amp surge protector? Or go with the 30 and sell with the unit down the road? Sorry if this is a newbie question.
I'd bet it's a 50 amp unit, but if not, you can get the 50 amp one and use an adapter
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I use the TRC SurgeGuard. I have never had a problem with it and it will protect your electronics just as well as the Progressive Industries model.

What has always interested me is how so many people rave about the PI unit and recommend it over the TRC unit because it has a lifetime warranty. What is interesting to me is the large number of people who have posted about how great Progressive Industries is because they had no problems returning their bad unit. There are lots of posts about this. I have yet to read a post in a forum where somebody was upset because their TRC unit quit working. The way I look at it is, I would rather have a unit that is less likely to need to be returned or replaced, leaving my electronics unprotected in the interim.

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this is what happens when you don't use one....
11 trailers in less than 2 minutes were sacrificed that cold September night at a well known and attended camp ground...
this was our first trip out and our last for the season because of the damage.
the camp ground attempted to blame the power commission but when they refused to assist us i used my policing skills and did some investigations of my own and then sent in the chief electrical inspector.
they had no permits for the last 10 yrs of work done so it all had to be ripped up and redone...

we installed a PI hard wired 30 amp unit after the damage was corrected and paid for by the camp ground.
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I use the TRC SurgeGuard. I have never had a problem with it and it will protect your electronics just as well as the Progressive Industries model.

What has always interested me is how so many people rave about the PI unit and recommend it over the TRC unit because it has a lifetime warranty. What is interesting to me is the large number of people who have posted about how great Progressive Industries is because they had no problems returning their bad unit. There are lots of posts about this. I have yet to read a post in a forum where somebody was upset because their TRC unit quit working. The way I look at it is, I would rather have a unit that is less likely to need to be returned or replaced, leaving my electronics unprotected in the interim.

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i also read a couple posts on a different forum that the folks had an issue and were in contact with the PI people who sent them (while on the road) a unit to use whereas theirs was being shipped back.
always 3 sides to every story i guess.
as long as you are protected (unlike us on the first trip out with a new trailer) that's all that matters.
Do you Know what is running through your wiring?
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I use the TRC SurgeGuard. I have never had a problem with it and it will protect your electronics just as well as the Progressive Industries model.

What has always interested me is how so many people rave about the PI unit and recommend it over the TRC unit because it has a lifetime warranty. What is interesting to me is the large number of people who have posted about how great Progressive Industries is because they had no problems returning their bad unit. There are lots of posts about this. I have yet to read a post in a forum where somebody was upset because their TRC unit quit working. The way I look at it is, I would rather have a unit that is less likely to need to be returned or replaced, leaving my electronics unprotected in the interim.

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Is it possible that trc units fail after the ONE year warranty and then no one postd about having to return it to be fixed?

I'm on this forum a little bit and I see a few posts, I've not read "large amounts" units failing such as you elude to.

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So we should hardwire it in instead of having a portable unit ?
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So we should hardwire it in instead of having a portable unit ?
Imo yes.

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I'm on this forum a little bit and I see a few posts, I've not read "large amounts" units failing such as you elude to.
LOL...a little bit? Kind of like Donald Trump is a "little" outspoken! ha ha, just messing with ya Turbs.
On a serious note, I haven't purchased an EMS unit yet. This thing called life keeps throwing a few unexpected expenditures at me. We only have one more trip scheduled this year, but I will definitely have one before next season. I am 99% certain it will be the Progressive Industries unit. Only decision will be hardwired or portable.

Speaking of that I started a thread a while back asking about the pros/cons of a hardwired vs portable when it comes to a over or under-voltage situation after someone had a connector melt. It received one reply. Yet it seems every other day someone asks about which surge protector and it gets 3 or more pages of the same replies. If there are that many of these units out there, I would have thought there would be more feedback.
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