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04-01-2019, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by David00061
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NO!
A 7600 lb trailer will add 700 - 800 lbs to your truck. If towing you can carry about 800 lbs in the truck
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04-01-2019, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CurtPutnam
NO!
A 7600 lb trailer will add 700 - 800 lbs to your truck. If towing you can carry about 800 lbs in the truck
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Thank you..
Will Equal-i-zer (weight distribution sway control) reduse the 700-800?
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04-01-2019, 02:57 PM
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Denver To Yuma In 90 Days
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Originally Posted by David00061
Thank you..
Will Equal-i-zer (weight distribution sway control) reduse the 700-800?
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Yes...by the weight of the WDH setup itself.
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04-01-2019, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnD10
Yes...by the weight of the WDH setup itself.
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the guy who installed my Equal-i-zer 90-00-1000 says it will reduse ball weight by 100 lbs
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04-01-2019, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by David00061
the guy who installed my Equal-i-zer 90-00-1000 says it will reduse ball weight by 100 lbs
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The hitch itself weighs about 100 lbs. Various hitches have different numbers but figure that a WDH hitch will push about 150 lbs to the front of the TV and a similar amount back onto the TT. It's a matter of leverage and it works in both directions. It is still best (IMO) to count the dead weight of the hitch into your payload. If the chains are not adjusted correctly, you are carrying the weight to a greater or lesser extent
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04-01-2019, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CurtPutnam
The hitch itself weighs about 100 lbs. Various hitches have different numbers but figure that a WDH hitch will push about 150 lbs to the front of the TV and a similar amount back onto the TT. It's a matter of leverage and it works in both directions. It is still best (IMO) to count the dead weight of the hitch into your payload. If the chains are not adjusted correctly, you are carrying the weight to a greater or lesser extent
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Any weight transferred to the front axle still goes against the payload and very little gets transferred to the trailer's axle. I just count all of the tongue weight towards my payload.
Thankfully, I am no where near my payload max. If it was, I would have a different truck.
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04-03-2019, 01:29 PM
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Someone (babock) finally hit the 'nail' in my opinion. All this back and forth about the last five pounds of towing ability is crazy....IMHO. Way more truck than necessary.....that's just about right.
I had a new Ram (2016) 2500 with the Hemi and it was rated to pull 10,000 pounds or so. I hooked up a 9,000 pound trailer to it....what a joke. As long as I was on flat road it did....okay. But as soon as there was any kind of grade I had to reach for the ear plugs. The transmission was never in the 'right' gear, etc. After going over a modest mountain pass there was an odor coming from under the hood that seemed like the smell of death.
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04-03-2019, 01:41 PM
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Denver To Yuma In 90 Days
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Originally Posted by dieseldodge
Someone (babock) finally hit the 'nail' in my opinion. All this back and forth about the last five pounds of towing ability is crazy....IMHO. Way more truck than necessary.....that's just about right.
I had a new Ram (2016) 2500 with the Hemi and it was rated to pull 10,000 pounds or so. I hooked up a 9,000 pound trailer to it....what a joke. As long as I was on flat road it did....okay. But as soon as there was any kind of grade I had to reach for the ear plugs. The transmission was never in the 'right' gear, etc. After going over a modest mountain pass there was an odor coming from under the hood that seemed like the smell of death.
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Guess you should have bought the Chevy 6.0L instead!
My 5'ver weighs in at 9500 pounds loaded and my Chevy 2500HD gasser handled the Colorado mountains, South Dakota, Utah, Nevada, New Mexico...
And now most of the southwestern US of A like a champ!
That coming from a former Dodge truck owner (five of them over the years)...
A friend of mine had a Dodge with the Hemi 5.7L and I had the Dodge Magnum 5.9L.
He told me he wished he had gotten the Magnum as the Hemi was great for street racing...but not the greatest for trailer towing.
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04-03-2019, 02:12 PM
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In a former life I got paid to read specs.
Frankly one should research the SAE towing spec for fun.
Actually saw their trailer somewhere. It is a low profile short trailer with aerodynamic stuff front and rear. Bears no resemblance to a big trailer or fiver.
Thus, one must use those results with a bucket of salt. Not spoon.
Gas motors are not a great choice in the mountains either. Up or down.
The methodology for rating trucks before the spec was extremely funny from an engineers perspective. Criminal by my standards.
Bigger is better.
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04-03-2019, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tomkatb
Gas motors are not a great choice in the mountains either. Up or down.
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Except for the Ecoboost engine.
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4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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04-03-2019, 03:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tomkatb
In a former life I got paid to read specs.
Frankly one should research the SAE towing spec for fun.
Actually saw their trailer somewhere. It is a low profile short trailer with aerodynamic stuff front and rear. Bears no resemblance to a big trailer or fiver.
Thus, one must use those results with a bucket of salt. Not spoon.
Gas motors are not a great choice in the mountains either. Up or down.
The methodology for rating trucks before the spec was extremely funny from an engineers perspective. Criminal by my standards.
Bigger is better.
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Well that settles that ... get your Diesel one ton on order ... Thanks
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04-03-2019, 03:40 PM
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bikendan….I don't know much about the eco-boost engines, other than they have turbos and use gasoline. Do they have exhaust brakes? I just watched a few videos on them. One showed a 2.7 pulling what they claimed was a 7500 pound trailer (flatbed with a pickup on it).
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04-03-2019, 05:52 PM
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Just as confused as you
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Originally Posted by JohnD10
Exactly!
I've often wondered how much a Line-X or Rhino spray-in liner weighs...
Anyone here know?
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I don't know about the spray-on liner only but my truck is a 2018 Silverado Z71 CC Short Box with full tank of gas 5535#, same truck after spray on liner and roll up tonneau cover 5790#, Spray-on liner and tonneau cover 144#
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05-17-2019, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DieselDrax
Sorry, that is false and physics will also disagree with you. It doesn't matter if the weight is on the truck or the trailer, the engine and transmission still have to get that weight moving. Trailer weight on the truck doesn't magically disappear from the total mass of the combined vehicle weights. If you can tow 7,600LB then that's all you can tow, meaning that's the maximum total trailer weight, tongue weight and all.
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X2 you have to respect what is in b/w, I am on the road with all kinds of crazy peoples that might be quickly in your way! Drive safe with in your means!
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