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Old 04-02-2016, 08:04 PM   #1
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trade in.

just traded our 2015 flagstaff for a 2016 cougar. 5th wheel very. nicr.pull with 2015 tundra.37 ft. 329 rsd. lots of room.
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Old 04-02-2016, 09:04 PM   #2
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I gotta ask....how does the Tundra handle the pin weight?
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Old 04-03-2016, 09:28 AM   #3
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Congrats on your new Cougar!
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Old 04-03-2016, 10:10 AM   #4
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Good luck on that S.O.B. 5er. We had a 2010 318SAB Cougar, never again.
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Old 04-03-2016, 11:31 AM   #5
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Wow. Traded a 15 for 16. Did you take a hit
What is the weight on your new trailer
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Old 04-03-2016, 12:05 PM   #6
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It looks like the 37' 4-slide Cougar 326RDS... If so, it has an empty weight of approx. 10,500/GVWR of 12,300 and empty pin weight of 1,850...

I love the floor plan & a Tundra might be able to tow it home/to a permanent site OK (empty)... However, if you plan to travel far, especially with passengers adding to your payload, then you will need to rethink the Tundra as a safe tow option...
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Old 04-03-2016, 12:24 PM   #7
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Congratulations on your new 5th wheel. Hope you enjoy it for years to come.
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coming home i got 13.5 mpg. did good.
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Old 04-03-2016, 12:31 PM   #9
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Good luck with your Cougar! We had a 2016 TT until we saw the 2016 Cougar 303rls. Have spent over a month in it and think it may be the best one owned in the past 4 decades.


Took it from NC to FL on the maiden voyage. Gotta love a 5er for towing.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:28 AM   #10
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Others have only alluded to it but are you aware that you are way surpassing all your tow and weight limits. I am not the weight police but with nothing but batteries, hitch and full propane and the dry pin weight according to specs from Toyota you will be over your payload and more importantly the rear axle limit by roughly 500# before even adding family to the truck or anything to the trailer and those numbers will increase even more. Also the tow rating of the Tundra is right about 10000# and once you load the trailer and your family( they count against your tow capacity ) you stand to be more than 2000# over that rating. Loaded to go payload stands to be 1300# over and rear axle maybe 1200#. Whoever sold you this trailer to tow should be charged with a criminal act for jeopardizing your family and others on the road. I have hauled heavy and towed heavy but only short distances. Not casting aspersions on the Tundra, I had a T100 with a 6 cylinder and a manual trans that I towed 2300 miles round trip with and it was within all limits. The only reason I got rid of it was to get a truck with more towing and payload capacity. I have a F150 Ecoboost Max Tow , Heavy Payload and tow a 28 Ft. bumper pull weighing 7800# and am under payload and axle ratings about 400# ready to go and tow ratings by 3400# so to me it is not about Toyota or 1/2 tons it is about capabilities, safety and comfort when towing. You are firmly in 3/4 ton territory and even then you have to watch payloads as not all are equal. My intention was not to harass you but maybe enlighten you if you were not aware of certain facts. If you feel put upon by this reply I apologize in advance and wish safe travels and much enjoyment with your new trailer.

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13.5 MPG? That's diesel mileage. Best I can get towing a 8329SS travel trailer with my Tundra is 9.5. 10 on a good day. Was your trip all down hill
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13.5 MPG? That's diesel mileage. Best I can get towing a 8329SS travel trailer with my Tundra is 9.5. 10 on a good day. Was your trip all down hill
Yea, it sure seems like there's something stinky in the wood pile there. All too often you see someone towing something down the road and you have to wonder what are they thinking.
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no east texas up and down and flat.
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Must been drafting with 18 wheeler Later RJD
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I trade my max tow Ecoboost F 150 for a F 250 Diesel with a lighter trailer (rockwood like your flagstaff) I was within some limits but over on payload. No way the Tundra is within limits with the Cougar.
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13.5 MPG? That's diesel mileage. Best I can get towing a 8329SS travel trailer with my Tundra is 9.5. 10 on a good day. Was your trip all down hill
One major factor in MPG is where you live and what restrictions the EPA has in those areas. I live in Milwaukee, where 10% Ethanol is mandatory, and that will easily kill my daily MPG by 10-15% compared to somewhere that has 100% gasoline.
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Must been drafting with 18 wheeler Later RJD
Sorta like this?

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Texas has mandated ethanol blend fuel. Except at some marinas you can get non ethanol at a premium price
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But...but.....Toyota shows a Tundra pulling the space shuttle!

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Old 04-05-2016, 09:55 AM   #20
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I have a 2011 Tundra towing around 10,000# and from Richmond, Va to North Fort Myers, Fl I got 11.061 MPG. I guess because I was going downhill with cruise set at 61 MPH. I did not check on the way back until I got to Savannah, Ga. From there home I got 9.196 MPG.

If I would go by the onboard computer that calculates the average MPG and not reset when I fill up with gas it would show a higher value which I know is wrong. I calculate my average MPG by dividing the total gallons of fuel used into the total miles traveled at the end of the trip.


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