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Old 10-06-2013, 10:13 AM   #1
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V-Lite Roof Construction Question

I am curious about the construction of the roof on a V-lite. Are there metal rafters bonded inside the laminated roof? If there are, are they on 16 or 24 inch centers? I am especially interested in the V area.

My 26 WRB has overhead cabinets in the nose or V area. I have noticed there is a gap between the ceiling and the top edge of the cabinets. I can push up on the bottom to completely close the gap. I would hope there is a roof rafter or some other structure in the roof these cabinets are supposed to be attached to. I am afraid there is either no structure there or they missed it when they screwed the cabinets in. There are screws into the ceiling and into the walls.

I am sure the normal, and maybe a few abnormal, road surface irregularities has caused to much mass momentum for the screws to hold. In other words, too many bumps in the road.

If there is no structure to attach to and the screws just go into a thin fiberboard and Styrofoam I will have to find way to properly re-attach the cabinets. I know if I don't do something fairly soon the cabinets will find their way to the couch then the floor. Not a good situation.
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Old 10-14-2013, 02:20 PM   #2
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I'd like to see more of what you are experiencing. This may apply more than just Vlites.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:58 AM   #3
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V-Lite Roof Construction Question

Here are some pictures of my problem. The cabinets are not attached to any structure via the mounting cleats behind the doors. The middle cabinet attaches to the 1/8 in. hardboard only and has nothing behind it. That area of the ceiling is hollow. The cabinets on either side of the middle one screw into the hardboard and foam that makes up the ceiling. I want to know if there is any metal structure in that area without ripping the ceiling apart.
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Old 10-15-2013, 12:50 PM   #4
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Are the cabinets screwed to the wall? I'm not an engineer "by any stretch of the imagination", but I would have hoped they didn't expect 1 screw to hold the weight of the cabinets and their contents. Being in the front won't have near the bounce and strain as if they were mounted in the rear. Is there any way to take the cabinets down and use a stud finder? You may have to call on the gorilla and use some of his glue!
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Old 10-15-2013, 04:32 PM   #5
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If its hollow like that why don't you put a toggle bolt in where that screw is
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Old 10-15-2013, 06:07 PM   #6
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The cabinets have more than one screw holding them up. They are screwed into the wall and ceiling. They are completely open inside so they are only screwed to the wall at the ends. I haven't looked into it enough to determine if the wall screws are anchored into the aluminum framework inside the walls.

It is hollow up front. I haven't been able to get FR to tell me if there is supposed to be a rafter in that area or not. They have suggested that I epoxy the cabinet top rails to the ceiling. No way that is going to happen. That just pushes the problem a little further down the road.

I am going to have to figure out where there is some structure to anchor to. AND make the wife happy with how it looks.
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Old 10-16-2013, 03:08 PM   #8
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KZ, I've learned that if women don't see it they won't know it. But for your peace of mind, you need to find out if there is some kind of structure that screw can go into. If you don't, and it comes down, then she will know it!
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Timex, my original idea was to wedge a 2x4 between the bottom of the cabinet and the floor. I had to set down and rest until that thought went away, I knew it would never get past the owners committee.

Anyone know where I can borrow a bore-scope so I can drill a small hole then do a look around inside?
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If you want to inspect what is in the wall and need a bore scope cam why do you not buy one f.i. At harbour freight and return it after you did your inspection. HF has a 90 days no question asked return policy. :-)
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:51 PM   #11
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I actually ordered a Borescope today. I have a couple of other issues at my home that would make a Borescope come in handy. I found one with a 45 ft cable that plugs into a USB port. The total with shipping was $40. This is the one I got, but they have lots to choose from.

Rakuten.com - 15M Portable USB Borescope Endoscope Mini Inspection Tube Pipe SnakeCam LED Camera-Waterproof

I'll post what I find in the TT.
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Old 11-25-2013, 07:27 PM   #12
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Sagging Cabinets Update

Today I finally put my fix in for the sagging cabinet issue I had. The Borescope I bought originally had some real problems. Just cheap China crap, so I bought different one. In the mean time I did some more investigating and decided I didn't need one. With the poke around with a small nail method, I determined there was no structure in the ceiling. During assembly the factory is just driving screws into the ceiling, which is just 1/8 inch luan and styrofoam. I did find the aluminum frame that runs along the wall / ceiling interface. I think I have a good anchor at this point. The pictures are just of one side, I did the same thing on each side of the center cabinet door.

The other end I'm a little concerned with. I am not sure the screws will hold over the long run. The next trip should provide the proof. I suspect I will be using bolts instead of screws. Hopefully the wife won't be too upset. Unfortunately, these cabinets are close to worthless for storage. But this should help with the justification to move up!
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Well, I was thinking the other day if you had figured something out.

My question to you, if the cabinets are going to be "worthless" for storage, why not just remove them completely or put up a shelf of some sort?
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If it was totally my decision I would do something different. I have to convince the other half that it would be in our best interest. Life I'd,full of trade offs
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:11 PM   #15
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Come on KZ, who wears the pants in the family? Oh yeah, I know who wears the skirt!

You have to make her think it was her idea, right?
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Old 01-13-2014, 08:23 PM   #16
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I am happy to report that my cabinet mounting fix held up on our last trip. We put at least 3600 towing miles on the TT. We hit some bumps that opened all the drawers in the lower cabinets. We didn't feel them in the truck, but it guess the trailer did. Also, I16 between Macon and Savana, Ga will make you have motion sickness with its rhythmic surface undulations. This section of road put several things out of place, but the cabinets held up. When we got back I push up on the leading edge looking for movement and there was none. So far so good.
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