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Old 10-07-2019, 08:06 PM   #1
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2104s mods so far

Added dimmers to the overhead lights, cheap 3 for 10 dollars ones. Did the expensive 30 dollar one on the dinette light, worked perfect to replace the push button. Added a 300 watt inverter for the TV only and wired it to the pop out plug on the counter so we can watch TV dry camping, has an off switch for when we aren't using the TV. Changed out the super cheap kitchen faucet for a nice Moen with built in sprayer. Put my solar charger in an electrical box and mounted to the battery box, this is for the portable panel with 20' cords. We have black out blinds coming for the front and two bedroom side windows. Oh also changed out the crummy plastic toilet for a ceramic bowl one.
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Old 10-08-2019, 01:59 PM   #2
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Nice mods.

I assume all the dimmers are Amazon items (I think they have been mentioned in other posts). I'm kinda surprised that the dimmers work. I thought the lights were LED and they tend to have voltage regulators that work over a wide range of voltages (+7 -> +24).

Did you add the pop up outlet or was it already there?

Just curious, you say you have a 2104s, what model? I have a 2104s Mini Lite and the kitchen counter is straight, not "L" shaped. We bought used (2017 model) but all the 2104S Mini lites we looked at, and the current floor plan on the Forest River/Rockwood site shows a straight counter. I couldn't find another 2104s.

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Old 10-08-2019, 04:25 PM   #3
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There were changes made late 2019, the L counter with the pop up outlet and a 32" TV. We were on the fence about this trailer but when we saw the changes we liked it so much we sold out Lance and bought it.
The dimmers are a nice mod for sure.
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Old 10-09-2019, 11:54 AM   #4
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When my wife and I were looking this year, the 2104s was tied for the "best option" given what we wanted. There were few others on tier two (I forget the other ones..) When our 2104s popped up on RV trader at a really good price it was an easy decision.

What we liked about the Rockwoods is that their slide outs are very deep (~3'). Other brands had shallower slides that would take up 6", 8", 12" of floor space even when extended. Since these trailers are smallish, a 6" piece of floor is a big deal. Thats why I really like the 2304DS model with slides on both sides, adds another 1.5' of floor space. But the 2403ds' were harder to find, and noticeably more expensive.

Even though we barley use 1/2 the storage space in the trailer (very little currently under the Murphy bed and dinette) we like the new 2104s with the added closet in the slide. The one thing we are having trouble with is were to hang things (coats, brooms, leashes,...). The only tall closet we have is the pantry, and thats not about to be given up.

Given the above, i'm not sure I like the new new 2104s layout with the "L" counter. Seems like while hanging out in the couch the counter is now in the way vs the open feel of the older models. My wife might prefer the extra counter space. I'd probably have to sit in the new one to get a feel.

This post is getting long so I'll add my mods in a new one.

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Old 10-09-2019, 12:21 PM   #5
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I have a 2018, I must admit I like the extra counter space the new design makes. The old layout left next to nothing for a kitchen counter, I had to build my own fold-out shelf to be able to do any cooking.
My only question is do you feel that the L-shape intrudes on the living space? That was the deal-maker with the 2104S, which won out over similar sized trailers. That deep slide really opens up the interior and feels less cramped than many other models.
So far my wife and big pupper really enjoy it for long beach weekends, and I too can't leave well enough alone and went pretty mod crazy. These little guys are just crying out for a bit of a personal touch!
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It does take up space, but unless you're dancing I don't miss it. The kitchen is very nice and has some extra drawers on the door side too. The Tv space used to seem kind of weird, I like the larger Tv and the space it's in.
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[So since this is a 2104s mod thread, and I made some mods, here they are. I don't think anything here is all that original but tweaked for our use.
  • Our sink cover was one piece. Now its two. Cut on miter saw and cleaned up with a file and wet stone (knife sharpener).
  • Took the fake panel blocking the pipes under the bathroom sink and reshaped it into a shelf (heating and wiring under it). Keep soft stuff up there and should be fine.
  • Got some 16" wire self and with 3 command hooks per side added two selves to the wardrobes.
  • Added a 4 port Marine 12V panel (Amazon, like $16) and an outlet to the other side of the bed. This give me USB ports and 12V outlet on each side now. Got the 4 port so I get a voltage meter as well. The on/off switch keeps power draw down. A little bright at night so I put a piece of black tape over the switch.
  • Extended the new outlet I added to run out to the slide under the dinette. One picture shows the outlet. The other is the under side of the slide were I followed the 12V power feed (on a flexible arm) and come up through the floor near the corner.
  • Not shown: I tweaked the kick panel under the Murphy couch. I straightened out the "J" hooks it hung on and removed the bottom support bar running across the couch. Now you don't have to lift up on the couch to get to the storage under it. Not as cool as I thought it would be.
To do:
  • Add another outlet on other side of dinette (just to avoid extension cords).
  • Going to add a outlet to the bathroom powered by an separate 20amp feed to the trailer. With only 30A of power, once the AC kicks on things like hairdryers sometime push the limit. Other than the last place I camped it seems there always a 20A outlet sitting next to the 30A plug.
  • The big one: I'd like to add a heat vent to the enclosed underbelly. Still thinking on this one.

Jim M.
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:46 PM   #8
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Is the TV still mounted above the shelf next to the Microwave? My wife likes the shelf near the door to store things. I don't like that the TV is so high up (seems to be a common problem in RV's). I've been looking for a way to extend the TV arm out a few inches (to clear the shelf) and then be able to lower it like foot to reduce neck strain. I don't want to go to a ceiling mount.... I have this aversion to putting holes in the ceiling/roof.

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Old 10-09-2019, 01:07 PM   #9
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Is the TV still mounted above the shelf next to the Microwave? My wife likes the shelf near the door to store things. I don't like that the TV is so high up (seems to be a common problem in RV's). I've been looking for a way to extend the TV arm out a few inches (to clear the shelf) and then be able to lower it like foot to reduce neck strain. I don't want to go to a ceiling mount.... I have this aversion to putting holes in the ceiling/roof.

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The shelf is gone. The tv has a mount that swings out but not down. It's to high to watch from the couch I think. We only watch tv in bed so it works great for that.
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:09 PM   #10
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[So since this is a 2104s mod thread, and I made some mods, here they are. I don't think anything here is all that original but tweaked for our use.
  • Our sink cover was one piece. Now its two. Cut on miter saw and cleaned up with a file and wet stone (knife sharpener).
  • Took the fake panel blocking the pipes under the bathroom sink and reshaped it into a shelf (heating and wiring under it). Keep soft stuff up there and should be fine.
  • Got some 16" wire self and with 3 command hooks per side added two selves to the wardrobes.
  • Added a 4 port Marine 12V panel (Amazon, like $16) and an outlet to the other side of the bed. This give me USB ports and 12V outlet on each side now. Got the 4 port so I get a voltage meter as well. The on/off switch keeps power draw down. A little bright at night so I put a piece of black tape over the switch.
  • Extended the new outlet I added to run out to the slide under the dinette. One picture shows the outlet. The other is the under side of the slide were I followed the 12V power feed (on a flexible arm) and come up through the floor near the corner.
  • Not shown: I tweaked the kick panel under the Murphy couch. I straightened out the "J" hooks it hung on and removed the bottom support bar running across the couch. Now you don't have to lift up on the couch to get to the storage under it. Not as cool as I thought it would be.
To do:
  • Add another outlet on other side of dinette (just to avoid extension cords).
  • Going to add a outlet to the bathroom powered by an separate 20amp feed to the trailer. With only 30A of power, once the AC kicks on things like hairdryers sometime push the limit. Other than the last place I camped it seems there always a 20A outlet sitting next to the 30A plug.
  • The big one: I'd like to add a heat vent to the enclosed underbelly. Still thinking on this one.

Jim M.
Nice mods, I added a 12 outlet on the other side of the bed too. The wife needs her cpap and we tried switching sides but it just felt to weird.
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:27 PM   #11
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Where did you get your night shades from? Been meaning to call a couple places but haven't decided on pleated or roller etc.
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:34 PM   #12
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Where did you get your night shades from? Been meaning to call a couple places but haven't decided on pleated or roller etc.
They are from https://www.recpro.com/rv-darkening-...istant-shades/

Way cheaper than custom shades, they are longer than I need but I don't think the extra pleats will matter.
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I'll check them out. Thanks!
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For your TV, If it is already clear of everything, something like this may work. It looks like one side mounts to a normal VESA 75/100 mounting bracket and the other side mounts to your TV. The you get something like +- 3" of adjustment.
I was thinking about using this... maybe move a few of the TV side holes to give me more "down" instead of the some up and some down it defaults to. But I would still need to extend the TV another couple of inches to clear the shelf first.

https://www.amazon.com/VIVO-Adjustab...40674376&psc=1

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Very nice mods!
Please share details regarding LED dimmers. There's a lot of cheap LED crap out there and I want to make sure I'm buying something that works.
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Very nice mods!
Please share details regarding LED dimmers. There's a lot of cheap LED crap out there and I want to make sure I'm buying something that works.
These are the best. A little pricey, but work great. I have them in 4 places in our rig. No flickering at all! Comes in three colors.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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That's the one I used on the dinette light, very nice switch. I used the cheap ones on the other ones because there was room for them. I took the face off and just mounted the pot with the rest of the box secured to the wiring back there. It took a little head scratching to figure out the wiring, if you follow the wires you will find one is ground, usually attached to a bunch of other grounds, the other is hot. You can check ground back to the fuse panel if you take the cover off.
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Old 10-09-2019, 02:44 PM   #18
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the cheap ones :

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073R7H52B...roduct_details
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BTW: You can order "blanks" that fit your control panel. I just drilled a hole in the blank to fit the dimmer.

https://www.digikey.com/product-deta...R0tqRDJFIn0%3D
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Got the Recpro shades installed today, they turned out nice. They aren't complete black out but close enough. I think the black looks nicer than the tan that came in it too.
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