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Old 03-06-2015, 11:40 PM   #41
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3/4 to 1/2 Ton Tow Rig

All the info on here is great, the numbers, the payload, max towing etc... I have a 2014 8311ss. I currently two it with a 1500 crew cab vortec max with a 6.0 l max towing package, transmission cooler, brake controller, upgraded my 20" tires to "D" rated capacity. Have a weight distribution hitch and sway control. We are looking at a 250 or probably a 350. We've had it for about 2 months and have been on two trips and that's why we are buying a new truck. White knuckling it a lot of the time. Not fun. 1/2 CAN pull it but no way I will keep this 1/2 ton. And another post said they pulled their 2604 fine with a half ton. A 2604 dry is only 5700 lbs and 29.5' long. Big difference between the 8311.
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Old 03-06-2015, 11:47 PM   #42
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All you need is an ego boost engine and some air bags or one of them shutle towers and air bags or a real 250/2500 and be done with it
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Old 03-14-2015, 10:44 PM   #43
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We have a 2015 8329ss which is just shy of 35 feet and dry weight is 7400 pounds. Absolutely love this trailer. Tow vehicle is a 2010 Ram 1500 with 5.7 litre Hemi and 3.92 gears. We have an equalizer hitch and I installed air bags in the rear springs to help keep the truck level when we're all loaded. This combination works very nicely - we've already towed the trailer to Florida and back (over 5000 km/3000 miles) and we have no trouble maintaining a steady 105kmh/65mph using the cruise control even through some of the hillier sections. I could go faster but based on what I've been reading I don't dare push the trailer tires any faster. I previously towed a 29 ft 5300 pound trailer with this vehicle and was a little worried how it would handle the larger unit but I recall the Rockwood rep telling me that "everything Rockwood makes is towable by a 1/2 ton" and I'm pleased to report my experience bears out what he was saying.
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Old 03-17-2015, 08:01 PM   #44
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Take a good look at the F150 EcoBoost, 2011 had 365hp/420ft/lbs. Got the 8,200 Package - Heavy Duty Payload (2,393 bed/cab), Max Tow 11,200 (brake controller, extendable mirrors (htd, remote, signal) and LT E rated tires.
Pulled a 30 ft TT 7,750 with Equalizer Hitch easily, the 10,000 with 1,650 pin is even better.
Bottom line this F150 found a home. The 6 speed auto/select is great, my foot is too heavy, I had a 66 GTO.
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Old 03-17-2015, 09:30 PM   #45
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Take a good look at the F150 EcoBoost, 2011 had 365hp/420ft/lbs. Got the 8,200 Package - Heavy Duty Payload (2,393 bed/cab), Max Tow 11,200 (brake controller, extendable mirrors (htd, remote, signal) and LT E rated tires.
Pulled a 30 ft TT 7,750 with Equalizer Hitch easily, the 10,000 with 1,650 pin is even better.
Bottom line this F150 found a home. The 6 speed auto/select is great, my foot is too heavy, I had a 66 GTO.
Yes. If I was in the market for a new halfton, I'd certainly look at the Eco boost. Not only for its tow ratings, but also mpg's when not towing. I rode with a friend in his and it was impressive. But my '08 tundra is in great shape so I'll stick with it for a while longer.
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Old 04-07-2015, 02:03 AM   #46
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I have the RAM 1500 with Hemi and tow a Rockwood fifth wheel (8285IKWS) with similar weight and pin weight. I just returned from the mountains and had 0 pulling power issues, breaking trouble, or sway problems. I monitored the transmission temp and it never came close to overheating. I used to pull with a RAM diesel, but am just as happy with the half ton with these light trailers. My only modification is the easy to install and inexpensive air bags that fit in the coil springs. They take all the softness out of the rear end with just 20 lbs. of air.
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Old 04-07-2015, 08:17 AM   #47
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I located a 2004 Ram 2500... There was some tread left, but the side-walls were beginning to crack and peel. The rust... had just begun to break paint in a few places... I negotiated the price down to a reasonable $13K...
YIKES! That's a lot for a rusty 11 year-old truck with bad tires... Good E rated tires will add another $1,500...

IMO you can always replace parts, even engine ($3.5K) & tranny ($1.5K), but you cannot do much about rust because its everywhere... If you don't mind rolling with stock options, (no leather, no NAV, etc.), you can find rust-free 3 year-old Ram 2500's coming off company leases for $15K... Yes, they are typically driven harder than privately-owned trucks, but they have no rust & many still have the balance of the 100K powertrain warranty... Also, the newer engine & tranny tech. typically provide better mpg than a 10+ year-old truck...

In 2013 I found a 2011 Ram 2500 CC ST w/85k miles for $14K. Last year Ram replaced the 5.7 Hemi under the 100K powertrain warranty, so now I have a rust-free truck with a new engine & renewed 3 year warranty on the replacement engine... It already had newer E rated tires, integrated brake controller, etc. I also found a like-new fiberglass cap on CL for $500 & it looks really great now for a stock truck. Also, IMO my $100 GPS provides free map updates & integrates with my phone better than the pricey onboard NAVs... I mean, who needs pricey satellite radio when you can get Pandora on your cell for free?

NUMBERS: Our 6,500 (empty) TT becomes 8,250 ready-to-camp. Empty tongue is 650 but we travel best with 13% (1,100) on the hitch. With a couple medium-size boxes of firewood in the bed, family of 5, bicycles, etc. we reach a payload of 2,200 and that is without the 150? lb. fiberglass cap I just added this winter... Plus, I want to add a couple Kayaks next year... Every idea seems to add weight vs. take it away...

IMO the only 1/2 ton capable of towing our loaded "half ton towable" TT is the F150 EB w/HD package. New ones cost $40K+, so I'm not trading-in my $14K Ram 2500 anytime soon just to save $800/year on my daily commute...
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Old 04-07-2015, 07:36 PM   #48
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I will throw in my 2 cents here. I had a 2004 F250 gas motor and pulled a 7000 lb trailer. It did a good job, I now have a 2013 F150 with the Eco Boost and it pulled that trailer way better then the F250. I just picked up a new 8311ss and pulled it from Michigan to the Eastern Shore of Maryland and am so impressed with this F150. It pulled the new Rockwood great thru all of the hills. I took I80, I76 and I70 with no problem. Was accelerating up the hills. And hardly braked going down them.
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I have the RAM 1500 with Hemi and tow a Rockwood fifth wheel (8285IKWS) with similar weight and pin weight. I just returned from the mountains and had 0 pulling power issues, breaking trouble, or sway problems. I monitored the transmission temp and it never came close to overheating. I used to pull with a RAM diesel, but am just as happy with the half ton with these light trailers. My only modification is the easy to install and inexpensive air bags that fit in the coil springs. They take all the softness out of the rear end with just 20 lbs. of air.
While I am very happy that you have a great towing experience, there is zero chance that you are not over payload weight on that Ram 1500
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Old 04-07-2015, 08:21 PM   #50
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My 2 centavos... Pulled an 8280ws on trips for two years with an 2012 F150 ecoboost. I have a new F250 LB with a 6.2 gas motor, 4:30 axle, and 5th wheel prep. package. The F150 was impressive for as well as it did. I really didn't have anything to compare it to. Now that I have driven both, I can say the F250 pulls with much more stability and braking which provides for more confidence and enjoyable driving. It's kinda like comparing amateur to professional performance. Not knocking the 1/2 ton, it served us well, just not near as well as the F250. I would not go back to 1/2 ton unless the trailer was considerably smaller.
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