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Old 08-13-2014, 09:52 PM   #11
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Just sucks that in wanting to have the platinum F150 I suffered so much in payload.
Unfortunately, the most bling also means the least payload!

You could take it to a CAT scale full fuel, passengers ready to camp...don't forget to add at least 150# to the rear axle weight if you don't have a hitch already installed. Compare the loaded truck weight to the TV's GVWR and also compare the loaded rear axle weight to the TV's RAWR. I wouldn't recommend exceeding the TV's RAWR, but that's me.

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Old 08-13-2014, 10:57 PM   #12
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Yeah I am trying to make the number jive in my head...and I know that the dry pin weight is driving it home from the dealer. I just love the floor plan of this one and the others sort of pale in comparison for me.

Just sucks that in wanting to have the platinum F150 I suffered so much in payload.
This is where I wish OldCoot would scale weigh his setup - especially when he brought the load of aluminum tubes home for the last batch of awning poles. He pulls a smaller fifth wheel with a 1/2-ton. I'd love to see hard numbers for what these trucks really can do.
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Old 08-19-2014, 12:36 AM   #13
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Old 08-19-2014, 12:53 AM   #14
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Here are the weights (actual and placard) for my 2014 8289WS. Actual weights were taken on a CAT Scale. The Wife, 2 dogs and I in the Truck. Fresh Water Tank 1/2 full. Grey and Black Tanks empty. Trailer loaded as we normally travel (food, clothes, etc.)

I have most of the heavy items in my Truck (Tools, Water Hoses/regulator, Spare Parts, Chocks, Levelers, Electrical Adapters, etc.) The only things in the under storage are two chairs, the Tailgater Satellite, Power Cable (SOOW 6/4 which weighs about 1/2 the OEM Cable), and Water Filters.

SCALE WEIGHTS

COMBINED
Front Axle 4900
Rear Axle 7080
Trailer Axles 7200
Gross Weight 19180

TRUCK
Front Axle 4880
Rear Axle 5360
Gross Weight 10240

TRAILER
Trailer Pin 1740
Trailer Axles 7200
Gross Weight 8940

TRAILER PLACARD
GVWR 9564
DRY FACTORY 7988
CCC 1576
Axles (2X4K) 8000
Pin (GVWR-AXLES) 1564

CURRENT STATUS
GVWR (9564-8940) -624 (Under)
AXLES (8000-7200) -800 (Under)
PIN (1564-1740) +176 (Over)

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I Have traveled many miles with OC, He has no problem at all towing his trailer. He carries a lot more then I do in his lockers. He also installed air bags. He has no problem pulling hills and going down 9% grades at all. His set up is perfectly level, and he feels safe and is safe for others on the highway. He keeps up with me without any problems at all. His trailer weights about the same as a #8289 very comparable......
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Old 08-19-2014, 05:24 AM   #17
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So, does this mean that towing with a 3/4 ton truck you would be overloading the truck? Pin weight is what's sitting on the rear wheels, right?
According to one source 9towing guides) I have 2300 lbs pin which is wrong, my calculations using Ford specs/ Changing gears has me at 1900 lbs max. I am 1900 lbs so I am at the limit however I do have room on my trailer axles and if i fill the water tank which often we do my pin weight goes down by 150 to 200 lbs depending on trailer loading. That take me off the limit a bit and I am still within my max tow of 11,200 by 2,000 lbs.

As far as most 3/4 ton trucks there are many different packages and builds like a 1/2 ton and in essence the 1/2 ton mat have the same weight.

One thing i should not I am 4 by 4 and this factors into a 1900 lb vs 2300 lb pin weight reduction.
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Yeah I am trying to make the number jive in my head...and I know that the dry pin weight is driving it home from the dealer. I just love the floor plan of this one and the others sort of pale in comparison for me.

Just sucks that in wanting to have the platinum F150 I suffered so much in payload.
Same deal with the King Ranch. Other tow exactly same truck/trailer as you do and I do with no problems. Up to you how you feel with your weights and loading. For the record 95% of the population just hooks up and tows with no weighing, care to know or even knowing of they are over. If there was a huge issue with overweight trucks and trailers we would see more articles and news reports of death traps travelling the nations highways. The people you see here on the forum are educating themselves and knowing limits and how to tow with what they have.
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This is where I wish OldCoot would scale weigh his setup - especially when he brought the load of aluminum tubes home for the last batch of awning poles. He pulls a smaller fifth wheel with a 1/2-ton. I'd love to see hard numbers for what these trucks really can do.
He has. I saw him pull in behind us at Goshen. Looked safe, no sag, no smoke pouring out of the brakes or burning smell from a overloaded engine. Looked like it was well within Chev's specifications for hauling a 5th wheel.:rollback:
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This is where I wish OldCoot would scale weigh his setup - especially when he brought the load of aluminum tubes home for the last batch of awning poles. He pulls a smaller fifth wheel with a 1/2-ton. I'd love to see hard numbers for what these trucks really can do.
You sound like a broken record, as I have said many times, I don't care what it is as long as it is level and I can tow 60-65 I'm happy. I don't care what your weights are and expect the same from you. When going up mountains east of the Mississippi I get in the truck lane and pass some and get passed. For those that don't like it, it is of no concern to me, they can pass or follow. Would I try the Rockies, not in a million years with this truck/trailer.
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