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Old 08-24-2014, 04:44 PM   #81
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I guess If FR/Lippert thought I needed shocks they would have put them on. I understand what you do and like to do OC , but really they are not necessary...Why make a mt. out of a mole hill?
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You are going to dolphin no matter what my truck has 4 shocks brand new the best that can be bought...
What I am trying to convey to you is the shocks on the trailer stop the dolphining while towing. BTW, you do not dolphin without a trailer it's just bouncing on crappy FoMoCo suspension.

I believe you are the one making a mountain out of a mole hill. I got mine fixed.

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Old 08-24-2014, 10:31 PM   #82
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gljurczyk,

I see in your sig that you have the 4 point level up.

When I inquired about getting it installed on my 8289WS I was told that the frame was too weak to use that system.

Who installed for you, or was it a DIY?

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Old 08-24-2014, 10:39 PM   #83
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You are going to dolphin no matter what my truck has 4 shocks brand new the best that can be bought (recommended by turbo and my wife even said thanks to him) and my truck will still bounce towing or not. For 3 years I have left a coffee pot on my counter and also nothing falls out of my cupboards or refer when I stop and open them. To each his own the mods you helped me with where for convenience for me which I will always be grateful for but that has nothing to do with shocks to make the unit ride easier. We are not comparing apples to apples here. I added the 4 pt because I got tired of an uneven trailer and now it stops all arguments about the shower not draining or the doors won't stay open or I'm walking up hill, no more of that anymore. Only problem now is that I have to buy more crap to load in the front end to increase my pin weight. Now that's a great problem to have.....
I don't like like a shower that doesn't drain either, I leave the nose a tad high to stop that.
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Old 08-24-2014, 10:51 PM   #84
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gljurczyk, I see in your sig that you have the 4 point level up. When I inquired about getting it installed on my 8289WS I was told that the frame was too weak to use that system.
Who installed for you, or was it a DIY? RodeoGeorge
Glenn got the system in Goshen at the rally. I think they told him that his was the only one they would do after installing his. They had to do a lot of reinforcing to his frame, etc. Took the better part of a day.
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Old 08-24-2014, 11:09 PM   #85
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They will install a motor driven system I was told by lippert. I guess I am thinking the cost of such is over improving the 8289. Looking that we most likely will get another 5th wheel to retire into. Will buy all the gadgets on that one.
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Old 08-25-2014, 04:41 AM   #86
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gljurczyk,

I see in your sig that you have the 4 point level up.

When I inquired about getting it installed on my 8289WS I was told that the frame was too weak to use that system.

Who installed for you, or was it a DIY?

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George, I had it installed by Lippert at the Rally, took them all day from 7:00AM to 4:30PM at the plant. I was suppose to get a 4 point electric, but Monday I talked to the head Engineer of Creative design. He said do not go with the electric and it was to slow. So they talked me into the hydraulic level up, the show price was 4200.00 installed, the electric was 3200.00. When they seen it was a Rockwood they called in 2 welders. Had to reinforce the frame with 2-2x2 cross beams and then added 2 I think it was 3/16 channel about 3' long right behind the rear axle. they removed the front landing gear and installed the pump and tank in the corner, which really gives me more storage area. They hung the control panel in the locker so it right there when I open the hatch. They said that I will have no twisting that I was afraid of. Also said it was the first one they did. They tried to charge me 4600.00 due to the welding and I said no. Talked with the same Creative engineer the next day, he said they had to due alot of reinforcing, but being they only could do a 4 pt. he called them and had them drop the price to 3600.00 he said a deal is a deal those jacks cost about 500.00 each. So i got a good deal. Any problems it is on Lippert they installed it and straightened the frame. The welder told me that he doubted they would ever do another Rockwood, but the creative engineer was great about the whole thing, Glad I got it done, don't plan on buying anything else because we love the trailer and plan to keep it. In about 3 mos they are coming out with what is called a black cat system, each ram will have it own reservoir and then they just plug in the electric to run the pump on the ram no more hydraulic hoses but the frames will still need the welding to stop any flexing at all.... Lippert interviewed me and took pictures of the install.....
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They will install a motor driven system I was told by lippert. I guess I am thinking the cost of such is over improving the 8289. Looking that we most likely will get another 5th wheel to retire into. Will buy all the gadgets on that one.
I guess it depends on what you paided for your 8289WS. I don't call it over improving. What are you saying that your unit is junk?
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gljurczyk,

I see in your sig that you have the 4 point level up.

When I inquired about getting it installed on my 8289WS I was told that the frame was too weak to use that system.

Who installed for you, or was it a DIY?

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Yes it is a DIY. There is at least one other with the 8289 that had theres installed at the rally. I'm pretty sure that the work that was done out there on any unit was done by FR techs. I have had mine on a couple of months and love them. I could see how if you get crazy with them you could twist the frame.
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:35 AM   #89
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Yes it is a DIY... I have had mine on a couple of months and love them...
Question, if it is a DIY, who did yours?
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And guess who ask for the drawings to put shocks on?
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