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02-11-2017, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Timex
I still don't know what it is.
Is it a pretty gull?
Since I don't use mine but 3 times a year, doubt I'll need 1 either.
But I'm curious about the leveling system, is this a 6 point system?
Have they beefed up the frame to be able to lift the tires off the ground?
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If you check out the product site, the 'Gull Wing' are on the front sides. The verticals are mounted just behind the wheels which would put less stress on the frame than the corners since that's where the trailer weight normally sits.
http://www.lci1.com/ground-control-tt
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Paul and Angela
Raleigh, NC
2018 Windjammer 3008w
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02-11-2017, 12:55 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Hattiesburg, MS
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Hope we aren't getting off topic here
Looks like on the 8" frame, they put the stabilizers on the back instead of the bigger lifting jack.
The stabs in front have to be pretty strong to support all the weight of the front of the TT since the tongue jack is taken out of play.
What will this do for side-to-side movement?
If you lift a tire off the ground, there goes the X-chocks.
I'd have to see this to believe it can be better. Not to knock those that have these.
But a doubt is looking around the corner when I see the logo, LCI.
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2012 Flagstaff V Lite 30 WRLTS
2005 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 Mag Hemi 3.72 Rearaxle
Nights camped 2015 = 23
Nights camped 2016 = 25
Nights camped 2017 = 13
Nights camped 2018 = 3
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02-11-2017, 12:57 PM
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I am definitely curious to see which style of rear jack ends up on the Windjammer. I definitely will continue to try to level the trailer side to side with blocks, at least to within 1-2 inches.
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Paul and Angela
Raleigh, NC
2018 Windjammer 3008w
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02-11-2017, 01:19 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Hattiesburg, MS
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I use the Anderson Levelers now. It sure beats keeping up with boards.
X-chocks, scissor jacks in front of the front axle, and ratchet straps criss crossed on the back jacks make my Vlite "fairly" stable.
I know, with a push of 1 button...
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2012 Flagstaff V Lite 30 WRLTS
2005 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 Mag Hemi 3.72 Rearaxle
Nights camped 2015 = 23
Nights camped 2016 = 25
Nights camped 2017 = 13
Nights camped 2018 = 3
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02-11-2017, 09:40 PM
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#625
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Windjammingnc
I am definitely curious to see which style of rear jack ends up on the Windjammer. I definitely will continue to try to level the trailer side to side with blocks, at least to within 1-2 inches.
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My 2017 Windjammer has 4 gull wings and a tongue jack.
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02-11-2017, 10:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brownie9
My 2017 Windjammer has 4 gull wings and a tongue jack.
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How stable is the unit when levelled? My wife always complained that our current trailer rocked too much when you walked it.
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2018 Windjammer 3008w
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02-11-2017, 10:18 PM
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#627
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Waynesville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brownie9
My 2017 Windjammer has 4 gull wings and a tongue jack.
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Unless your gull wings have 4 separate 12V motors your system is the 2,12V motor "Stabilizer System"! Not the 4.0 System! Youroo!!
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02-12-2017, 09:04 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Windjammingnc
How stable is the unit when levelled? My wife always complained that our current trailer rocked too much when you walked it.
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I added 2 scissor jacks and the Steady Fast stabilizer bars at the back bumper,
just because I had then from the trailer I traded in.
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02-12-2017, 09:13 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brownie9
I added 2 scissor jacks and the Steady Fast stabilizer bars at the back bumper,
just because I had then from the trailer I traded in.
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Also, where did they put the control panel for the leveling system? It appears they have to mount it outside for safety reasons and the only place on the 3008w would be the propane storage.
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02-12-2017, 09:14 AM
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Junior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by youroo
Unless your gull wings have 4 separate 12V motors your system is the 2,12V motor "Stabilizer System"! Not the 4.0 System! Youroo!!
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Sorry to disappoint you youroo but yes I have 4 gull wings with 4 separate electric motors "Stabilizer System"! And an electric tongue jack with the MyRV touch screen inside and the Quick Level control outside and yes it's called 4.0 Leveling system right on the window sticker!!! Sorry if you don't believe me.
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02-12-2017, 09:39 AM
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Location: Waynesville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brownie9
Sorry to disappoint you youroo but yes I have 4 gull wings with 4 separate electric motors "Stabilizer System"! And an electric tongue jack with the MyRV touch screen inside and the Quick Level control outside and yes it's called 4.0 Leveling system right on the window sticker!!! Sorry if you don't believe me.
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Thanks,if you had stated your Gull Wing stabilizers had 4 motors I would not have ask! Most "Stabilizers" on WJ are 1 motor driving 2 gullwings-self leveling! Lippert has "Already" changed the rear jacks from Vertical to Gull wing in the Same Model Year? PS ,You are the ONLY member who has ever replied in regards to having a TT unit with the Lippert 4.0 system on a Lightweight! Thanks for the reply! Youroo!!
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02-12-2017, 11:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by youroo
Thanks,if you had stated your Gull Wing stabilizers had 4 motors I would not have ask! Most "Stabilizers" on WJ are 1 motor driving 2 gullwings-self leveling! Lippert has "Already" changed the rear jacks from Vertical to Gull wing in the Same Model Year? PS ,You are the ONLY member who has ever replied in regards to having a TT unit with the Lippert 4.0 system on a Lightweight! Thanks for the reply! Youroo!!
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I Didn't know my Windjammer was different than the past years but I am not to surprised, I called Lippert because the manuals and video for the Level-Up system that's in the MyRv panel did not match system that I have. They said "the directions for the electric gull wing jacks were not ready yet". But I think they are now.
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02-12-2017, 12:01 PM
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#633
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Windjammingnc
Also, where did they put the control panel for the leveling system? It appears they have to mount it outside for safety reasons and the only place on the 3008w would be the propane storage.
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On my 3025w with the front bathroom it is under the right side sink cabinet.
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02-12-2017, 01:20 PM
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#634
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Location: Waynesville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brownie9
I Didn't know my Windjammer was different than the past years but I am not to surprised, I called Lippert because the manuals and video for the Level-Up system that's in the MyRv panel did not match system that I have. They said "the directions for the electric gull wing jacks were not ready yet". But I think they are now.
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Now we are getting somewhere! You are my Only hope to find out any "Real User" info! Don't feel alone about operating the 4.0 system they didn't/couldn't at the RV show either! They "Talked the Talk but Didn't Walk the Walk"! Please keep us in the Loop on how the 4.0 System works for you in the "Real World"! Youroo!! PS We like Pics also!
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