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Old 04-11-2013, 02:39 PM   #11
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We have a 3600 Kipor. Park approved, It is 65 dbs and we have 6 years of operation on it now. With a max load it will run almost 7 hours.
It has an Eco mode with auto load sensing.
We did need a new battery for it and could not find one the right size($160.00). Found one a little bigger for $50.00 and removed one battery tray edge, fits fine and no one can tell the difference.
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Old 04-11-2013, 03:00 PM   #12
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I agree that the Honda and Yamaha might be a little better than the Champion, Kipor, Lifan, or any of several other similar inverter generators. However, at nearly twice the price, it is hard to imagine that they are twice as good.

As for quiet, they all have exactly the same noise spec. I bought two of the 2000W Champions, and am quite pleased with them.

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Old 04-11-2013, 03:11 PM   #13
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Have 2 Honda 2000 run parallel with an extended run fuel system.

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Old 04-12-2013, 08:25 AM   #14
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I agree that the Honda and Yamaha might be a little better than the Champion, Kipor, Lifan, or any of several other similar inverter generators. However, at nearly twice the price, it is hard to imagine that they are twice as good.
As for quiet, they all have exactly the same noise spec. I bought two of the 2000W Champions, and am quite pleased with them.
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I am not a Honda fanatic! I have a Honda 2000 but if I could get half
my money back and trade it for a Champion I would definitely consider it.
I'd want to hear the Champion run under load first but I totally believe you!

Furthermore- I bought the Honda B 4 a long trip out west where we'd be
boondocking several days at different locations. We only used the microwave
once during that time. We could have done easily with a lighter slightly
cheaper Honda 1000. If I'd bought a Champion 1000 it would have saved
me a bunch! (I understand that a 1000 won't power a microwave- even
a smaller one like we have.)

I mainly need mine to charge batteries and I typically use a 25 amp charger
and a 1000 watt genny is plenty for that. In fact it's practically loafing when
I'm charging batteries.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:04 AM   #15
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I agree that the Honda and Yamaha might be a little better than the Championl

Theres no "Might" be better after watching this video. Are they worth twice the price thats debatable but as for performance that seems pretty clear.
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="Review CPE Generator 2000 watt inverter VS Honda EU2000i - YouTube" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:18 AM   #16
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Theres no "Might" be better after watching this video. Are they worth twice the price thats debatable but as for performance that seems pretty clear.
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="Review CPE Generator 2000 watt inverter VS Honda EU2000i - YouTube" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
This was very helpful as I was leaning toward the Champion and thought that the power output was the same, I guess you get what you pay for.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:42 AM   #17
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I have had a Honda EU 3000 IS since 2004, used it to power a 57 FT houseboat in Silver Glen Springs during the summer months from May through September for 3 years, it would give us 120 V to power a 3000 watt inverter charger to charge our 8 6v batteries power our 4 ceiling fans TV and what ever else we wanted to do. It cost us $1500.00 new and I will buy another one when this one wears out. At night during those months it would also power a 9000 BTU stand alone AC unit to cool our bedroom. The Boat had a 12KW gen set that we only had to run to heat water or cool the boat down using the 4 ton AC Unit. The Honda is well Maintained using only Mobil 1 10-30 after 40 hour of running. I must say it took allot of energy management when the inverter was on high charge but we learned what we could run and in what combination. I am sold on the quality of the Honda and in my mind it was worth every dollar I paid for it.
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Theres no "Might" be better after watching this video. Are they worth twice the price thats debatable but as for performance that seems pretty clear.
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="Review CPE Generator 2000 watt inverter VS Honda EU2000i - YouTube" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Great video ... we camp every year with a large group (over 80 people for 10 days of boon docking) ... we have several non HONDA / YAMAHA brand generators in the group and we have seen the same thing. HONDA / YAMAHA can handle surge much better than any of the other brands. That's one reason I when with the Yamaha 2000is pair. The other main reason was weight, at 44lbs each my wife can move them around without issue.
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The Champion's are actually only 1600W continuous, 2000W surge. I don't plan on using them to do anything other then power my 5ver I have a bigger, noisy genny for emergencies and other off shore power things. I have two with the parallel cable. I hooked them to the 5ver and was able to run anything I wanted. Not saying they are as good as the Name Brand ones but I am happy with them and saved some $$$$.
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The Honda "2000" is only rated at 1600 continuous watts also.
If you're going to be using your genny at near max load that is a factor also.
Mine is just loafing most all the time.

Don't let folks scare you away from a Champion. If I was going to use
a genny long term such as on a houseboat or full time boondocking sure
I'd probably stick with a honda but ME-- I just use mine to charge batteries
so I've over spent. If I could do it over again, I'd get a Champion 1000.

Generators are all about what you want them to do. What are you trying
to power??

For me it's all about charging batteries.
12v x 25amp charger = 300 watts. Add 25% for heat loss etc and
I'm still running a "big" honda 2000 to generate only 400 watts.
OTOH it runs on eco, idle mode when I'm doing that.

I started out with a little 2 cycle. Cost just a tad over $100 and would
charge my batteries fine BUT it was SO LOUD.
Gave it away and got a Honda. Wish I'd done more research.
Wife was urging me to "get a good one". It's always easier to spend money
when your wife is in the background saying "do it"!!
Also I had hoped it might run my roof AC. It actually did start the compressor
one time at 400 feet above sea level on a mild spring day. Once we got
warmer and higher it couldn't do it.
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